Cockring issues. Expansion decreases?

I lately bought a silicone cockring that is very easy to stretch and seems like it does a good job when it is initially just placed around my penis right after a workout. The problem is i lose the expansion very fast, say about 5 minutes after and then my dick just looks even smaller than my normal flaccid but just more veiny. I also have a silicone nose tie that I used before this cockring and it has the same effect so I decided to try out a cockring. What can I do to keep my expansion longer? My penis ends up becoming cold and not staying plump, but at the same time if I don't constrict it enough, then its like Im not even wearing one. Honestly it seems like i'm better off not even bothering to put one on because without one I can stay expanded for longer. Any advice? Maybe my equipment just isn't good I don't know?

I never used a ring post workout because when I train its pretty hard on my dick anyway. Just leave the ring off a few days, and when you feel fit try again the rings

I´m fairly new to PE but one thing I have noticed is that with girth its important to not go overboard. If I go too hard for too long my flaccid after the workout will be sort of small and lifeless. If I dont go as hard and as for as long it will stay nice and plump. So for me the trick is to get good expansion and then stop. At that point I´m done and if I do more it seems to be counter productive.

Gotta know what your girth workout is first. If your not getting enough expansion, it will go down quickly since most of what you will get is fluid retention. Depending on your routine, you could over exert yourself. Any time your body thinks you did to much, automatic shrinkage for safety reasons. It's built into our genes.
With the cock ring on, it's definitely beneficial after girth work. Always keep thinking about your penis. It'll help keep blood going and try to get erections as well. You want constant blood flow to keep your penis healthy and in a state of expansion. Jelqing every once in a while as well.

Fill us in on your routine and time schedule.

If you loose the expansion so fast I think you need tighter ring.
For example I dont loose the expansion with cockring for few hours.

BigBeardBig;681141 said:

If you loose the expansion so fast I think you need tighter ring.
For example I dont loose the expansion with cockring for few hours.

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True and another addition that some men may want to use is every hour get in the bathroom, get in 5n minutes of jelqing, SSJ, etc. and reattach the ring. This will ensure expansion through the entire day.

doublelongdaddy;681255 said:

True and another addition that some men may want to use is every hour get in the bathroom, get in 5n minutes of jelqing, SSJ, etc. and reattach the ring. This will ensure expansion through the entire day.

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Indeed, I dont even do jelqing or other stuff, pretty much just every hour jerk for a bit, get expansion again and repeat next hour, takes me 30 secs.

BigBeardBig;681321 said:

Indeed, I dont even do jelqing or other stuff, pretty much just every hour jerk for a bit, get expansion again and repeat next hour, takes me 30 secs.

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Yup, whatever it takes to quickly get the expansion back when things start to fade. This all goes to the healing process and this is just as important as the gaining process. Remember that SRT was born from this theory.

10INCHDESTINY;681018 said:

I lately bought a silicone cockring that is very easy to stretch and seems like it does a good job when it is initially just placed around my penis right after a workout. The problem is i lose the expansion very fast, say about 5 minutes after and then my dick just looks even smaller than my normal flaccid but just more veiny. I also have a silicone nose tie that I used before this cockring and it has the same effect so I decided to try out a cockring. What can I do to keep my expansion longer? My penis ends up becoming cold and not staying plump, but at the same time if I don't constrict it enough, then its like Im not even wearing one. Honestly it seems like i'm better off not even bothering to put one on because without one I can stay expanded for longer. Any advice? Maybe my equipment just isn't good I don't know?

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The cock ring you were using isn't tight enough. To keep your expansion, you need a tighter cock ring.

huge-girth;758469 said:

The cock ring you were using isn't tight enough. To keep your expansion, you need a tighter cock ring.

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Indeed. The cock ring needs to be tight enough to keep the pump, if the pump is not kept there is no reason for the ring. So go with a ring that is tight enough that no blood leaves the penis but not so tight that it is causing pain. A flexible ring is best and having multi sized rings will also be convenient on days you have less or more expansion. The best to go with are the most ghetto, cheap rings possible, O-Rings from a plumbing store or HomeDepot. These come in many sizes and a multipack costs less than a dollar.

Pumping everyday. Sometimes I have a huge expansion for two hours afterwards without cockring. At other times it is already small directly after coming out of the cylinder.

I realized that even a cockring doesn't help here. If the penis doesn't want then also a cockring will not change that. Wearing a cockring and having small expansion is not comfortable for me because a lot of friction occurs. A cockring only makes sense to me when the penis is full to begin with.

For me the current expansion of the penis has become an indicator on how 'overtrained' I am. The softer, the more overtrained it is. Have to find out whether that hypothesis can be maintained in the future.

Alternative for cockring is ADS. That works almost all the time.

Chaoskampf;758522 said:

Pumping everyday. Sometimes I have a huge expansion for two hours afterwards without cockring. At other times it is already small directly after coming out of the cylinder.

I realized that even a cockring doesn't help here. If the penis doesn't want then also a cockring will not change that. Wearing a cockring and having small expansion is not comfortable for me because a lot of friction occurs. A cockring only makes sense to me when the penis is full to begin with.

For me the current expansion of the penis has become an indicator on how 'overtrained' I am. The softer, the more overtrained it is. Have to find out whether that hypothesis can be maintained in the future.

Alternative for cockring is ADS. That works almost all the time.

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But how would a ADS keep your expansion high?

doublelongdaddy;758747 said:

But how would a ADS keep your expansion high?

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Excellent question. This started happening after integrating this new, larger 3d printed vacuum chamber. Finally the entire shaft is full and expanded.

Chaoskampf;758754 said:

Excellent question. This started happening after integrating this new, larger 3d printed vacuum chamber. Finally the entire shaft is full and expanded.

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Picture?

doublelongdaddy;758832 said:

Picture?

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Can't really show it on a picture. But if the Phallosan sleeve and chamber allow larger expansion it seems to hold that expansion.

The chamber is considerable larger, probably like a 3XL chamber would be if you size like Phallosan does. In this picture the belt ring is filled out from the penis base.

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Chaoskampf;758871 said:

Can't really show it on a picture. But if the Phallosan sleeve and chamber allow larger expansion it seems to hold that expansion.

The chamber is considerable larger, probably like a 3XL chamber would be if you size like Phallosan does. In this picture the belt ring is filled out from the penis base.

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Very cool! What is your girth now? It looks huge.

doublelongdaddy;758984 said:

Very cool! What is your girth now? It looks huge.

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Yo man, thanks for noticing. My midshaft girth is between 4.75" (flaccid), 6" (normal erection) and 6.75" (very good erection and after some pumping). At the base it is between 7" and 7.75".

Chaoskampf;759110 said:

Yo man, thanks for noticing. My midshaft girth is between 4.75" (flaccid), 6" (normal erection) and 6.75" (very good erection and after some pumping). At the base it is between 7" and 7.75".

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Incredible! Your girth is massive! Where did you start size-wise?

doublelongdaddy;759481 said:

Incredible! Your girth is massive! Where did you start size-wise?

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That is a good question DLD. I would say with an erect girth of 5.3/4". Back in time measurements were done so that I tricked myself into thinking it is bigger than it is. 5 years ago, if I remember correctly, measurements were instructed to be done by squeezing the measuring tape so that the harder core of the shaft was measured. I have never heard of this practice anymore in the new times.

I am quite sure that I didn't have the taper effect so much in the beginning, meaning that the base didn't deviate so much from midshaft girth. I think this came from pumping and that due to the necessity of sealing a cylinder, the vacuum had the highest impact on the base. I don't know though.

Sometimes I have the feeling that the Bathmate Goliath gaitor is restricting my penis to expand properly - that's why I bought cylinders from normal cylinder manufacturers. I reported about this in the forum when I bought a 3" wide cylinder. Lately I was able to seal this 3" cylinder with my base, having the balls outside of the cylinder. After that happened I upgraded to a 4" cylinder. However this 4" cylinder has an XXL seal incorporated which makes the opening slightly smaller. But this 4" is again used with the balls inside. I do that because I don't have to take off the cylinder every 15 minutes - I can just go for 45 minutes or 90 minutes.

Even though I know that the measurements look good I don't particularly feel huge so to say. Something is wrong. Maybe the length falls short compared to the girth or the reason is because this girth is only in place when the penis has good expansion. When a flaccid comes everything looks tiny again.

Last week I tried my small 15$ cylinder 8" x 2.1/4" and I realized that the degree of packing, at least in terms of penis width, showed the exact same picture as it had 1.5 years ago. Therefore I had to question my gains again. I don't know how this can happen. Maybe the cylinder is so small that the base can't really get in but somehow these things are odd.

Chaoskampf;759110 said:

Yo man, thanks for noticing. My midshaft girth is between 4.75" (flaccid), 6" (normal erection) and 6.75" (very good erection and after some pumping). At the base it is between 7" and 7.75".

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6 mid shaft when erect means you are thicker than me when I'm erect but the difference is not very much, not close to half inch neither. My base girth is slightly above the 6 inches mark now. What is sex like after your girth session?