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Christianity and its relation to penis enlargement:

I have been a Christian since high school, and I have always tried to keep my walk with God clean and pure as is possible for me. I have more recently become self-conscious about the size and length of my penis (much like a fat person is probably self-conscious about his weight- I am sort of fat but not obese). Thus the question was raised in my mind, can one engage in penis enlargement practices without sacrificing their Christian walk with God?

It has been my belief that when a Christian man weds his wife, it is his responsibility to keep his wife satisfied in every way, so she will not experience temptation to go and look for that satisfaction elsewhere through adultery. I did not want my wife to constantly be disappointed in her experience with me on account of my relatively short 5.5” Johnson. I know I’m not all that great-looking or attractive, (though I hope to lose a little weight through exercise next semester) so I needed to be sure that my ability to satisfy my wife would carry over to the bedroom (where sexual activities between a man and his wife are not only tolerable, but even beautiful in the eyes of God.) So I turned to look at Penis Enlargement sites on the internet. I found some free information on manual techniques.

When I started reading about manual Penis Enlargement techniques, I read about the jelq. However, being up at college with no privacy, it was unlikely that I could grab proper lubricant and do a jelqing session. Instead of doing jelqing, I would instead put my full hand around the base of my shaft and close one finger at a time, squeezing more and more as the end got fuller and bigger, and I experienced a sensation of stretching and being engorged in that area, so I thought it was working. I later discovered what I was doing was similar to the Uli, sort of a “progressive Uli”. I would do about five minutes every other night, and then I stepped up to doing it every night. Then my penis started to get very sensitive – too sensitive – and I would begin to get very erect, and ejaculate after a very short time after that. For most guys, this would just end the routine. However, I had always heard from people that masturbation was a sin, and when my actions I was performing on my penis began to cause erection, I just assumed that this constituted masturbation, and that I had sinned. Now, as a Christian, we are taught that our sins have been paid for in full, but it has always been my strong desire not to sin against God, because once the enemy of our souls gets a foothold, more things can creep in. I experienced deep feelings of regret and shame at what I had done.

I later went back to Penis Enlargement a few weeks later, and found that I could “jelq” in the shower using shampoo as a lubricant. Soap dried out my skin. In the showers in my residence hall, there is a seemingly endless supply of hot water , but at home there is not. My interest in the Uli had become stronger, because in my eyes it is a much more portable girth workout than the jelq. I tried again, but it seemed I couldn’t continue for very long without the strong desire to blow a load. But that would be masturbation, and that would be sin…right?

I read my Bible and couldn’t find any specific information there, and so my search took me to the Internet, looking for a Christian site that would show me the answers I was looking for. I found http://www.boysunderattack.com, and read that the Bible itself said nothing about masturbation. I then read the explanation for why so many people view the acto f masturbation as sinful. Around those times of the early church, there was a sect called Gnosticism, which had a habit of going around and making up its own teachings, which is bad news. Contrary to what was said in the Bible, they began to teach that God had only made the spiritual world and that the devil had made the physical side, and that all sexual acts were repugnant and abominable in God’s sight. The Gnosticism sect began to acquire a following, because their teachings were closer to the way of life the people had been following up to that time, and they appeared to be more “pure” because of their stricter restrictions on acceptable sexual behavior. The Catholic church, to keep from losing followers, began to tighten things up beyond those things laid out in the Bible (the book of Leviticus, primarily), and even went so far as to say that masturbation was more repugnant than doing one’s own mother. Mind you, the Bible didn’t say that. There is a spot in one of the Old Testament books where this one guy Onan had a social and cultural responsibility to do this one guy’s wife because if he did not, there would be no heir to a large amount of property and goods, or perhaps an entire kingdom. However, Onan pulled out and “spilled his seed” on the ground. Then God struck him down as punisHydromaxent. Many use this as a condemnation of masturbation, but in reality the matter is elsewhere. It wasn’t that Onan spilled “seed”, but that he did so in disobeying God, who had commanded Onan to produce a son who could be an heir to the large amount of property/large sum of money/kingdom. It wasn’t that the guy pulled out and let his load go outside the woman, but that God had commanded for the load to go inside the woman to carry on this one tribe or kingdom.

So, masturbation in and of itself is not a big deal. Science even suggests that it is a natural part of being a young man, because the body is producing “seed” at a very rapid rate, and it has to come out. If not through masturbation, it will come out through nocturnal emission. There is, however, a catch: There is a strong temptation to lust after women (either by thoughts or by pornography) in order to achieve ejaculation while masturbating. Lust is sin, though the masturbation is not. So if any of you out there are Christian, just know that it is okay to do Penis Enlargement to the point of cumming, and even okay to engage in “edging”, which as part of its procedure requires the body to be on the verge of cumming, and blow a load afterwards. It’s just not OK to lust in doing so (no pr0n for me). Penis enlargement techniques are like lifting weights, only you are exercising and enhancing a more personal part of you, so you can satisfy your responsibility to your wife to make sure she is satisfied.

Now, a more technical question: How does one “uli” and how many “uli”s does it take to get the same effect as about 150 jelqs? Also, since the Uli is a somewhat advanced exercise, how does one stay safe while doing it?
 

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WOW man great post. I take my walk with God very seriously. I am a Christian man of no religious back ground. I find that my Penis Enlargement can sometimes interfere with my walk with God because I would look at pornography. I would not lust after those women, it just turned me on to see the acts of sexual intercoarse. Now is that a sin to watch porn in that matter?

Also, I used to feel guilt after I ejaculater, but not anymore, it is not a sin, its a natrual thing that was made by God.

But I am still leery about porn, what do you think?
 
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Found that the link didnt work properly due to a comma placed in the address. Here it is without the comma. The site has some good reading.

http://www.boysunderattack.com
 

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As long as you don't lust, or commit adultery, you are fine. If you have a wet dream are you sinning, if you bust a nut by accident it was merely that, don't think anything of it, remember you're only a man, you may fall down occasionally but god does'nt mind, what matters to him is if you get up after falling. Hope I helped, and good luck by the way.
 
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God love a man who helps himself.

If he gave you a small dick and you help yourself get a big one, he can't complain aslong as you dont rape anyone or knock someone out with it.
 

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Awesome Scotty and Final, thanks a lot!
 
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I too was guilty of masturbating to porn for the years that I did. In essence, now that I Penis Enlargement, I don't masturbate to porn in the same way that I did. I don't do it to get "off" anymore or to lust after women. I simply use it as a mechanism to get aroused in order to improve myself. :)
 

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So is it a sin? I am not lusting after the porn its just a way to help me get into it with girth work, like edging and jelqing.
 
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You do have to keep in mind that pornography, even if you don't lust after it (which I would find very difficult not to do), gives you a loss of innocence. I'm not married yet and I'm still a virgin, but my gal knows I've looked at porn in the past and she knows that if we get married I will have seen other nude women. A woman cannot help but compare herself to other women, especially if she feels a threat. And she will feel threatened by the women in pornography. She will feel very inferior to them physically. I mean, what woman wouldn't feel inferior compared to Jenna Jameson? I want to protect what little naivete I have left and I also want to protect her emotions. I hear tons of stories of pornography ruining marriages and that's the last thing I want!

It's awesome to see that there are other Christians on this site though. I'll be praying for my Penis Enlargement brothers!

John
 
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i agree with 9. i can't say i always stick to that, but looking at porn does separate me from Christ. but you are not alone on this board and i think that the two can definitely co-exist. it's similar to working out, just try not to let it become an idol for you.
 

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Wisdom, my friends. If you can improve yourself through something good you've learned that will make your life more worthwhile for you, then I believe you should go for it.

-ItsElectric

*Moved this thread to the Deep Thoughts section*
 

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I do need to seperate myself from Porn completely. Does got not say in the Bible that it is wrong?
 
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Dude it doesnt matter what the Bible says. It says a lot of crazy things. But to think that masturbation or pre-marital sex or Penis Enlargement is somehow against God's will, is just dumb.

All that matters is that you are a good, decent human being. Im tired of people talking about the "sanctitiy" of marriage. Like its is SO sacred.

But nobody addresses the fact that 50% of men cheat, and 30% of woman cheat, and about 50% of all marriages end in divorce.

But in a nutshell, God dosent care if you Penis Enlargement, or whack-off or forget to rewind or whatever.
 

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Hold on NeXuS. I'm trying to keep it Biblical here, and the Bible says that sex isn't to be enjoyed outside of marriage, since the two were made to go hand in hand. I understand you may not be a Christian, and I am not going to try and convert you here, but this thread was intended to be for Christians already Penis Enlargementing and Christians wondering if they can Penis Enlargement at all without sinning. Marriage IS "SO" sacred. The fact that 50% of men cheat and 30% of women cheat means precisely dick. I'd be willing to bet that a large percentage of those 50% of marriages that end in divorce should not have been started anyway. But yeah, busting a nut in and of itself is not a sin. Porno, on the other hand, induces lustful thoughts and it is a sin. It does say in the Bible that lust is sin, and Pornography is just a way of feeding lust. It is not necessary in order to blow a load, as that type of a reaction can be triggered in response to purely physical stimuli as well. It may actually be better to masturbate than to go in search of women to fulfill the need for that experience. The benefit there would be that the women=sex thing would not be as much of a factor, and people would be able to love their women more honestly. There is a possibility that masturbation can become an addiction, and that must not happen. Christianity teaches that we are saved by Christ, and thus we are wearing clean, spotless robes (as a figure of speech to mean that we appear clean) when we come into His presence. Christ was sent to have the final victory so that even sinful man might be able to stand in that victory and satisfy the condition of holiness that must exist for a person to go near God (to heaven). That right there is the significance of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Now, on the side, how 'bout those Uli's?
 
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There is a spot in one of the Old Testament books where this one guy Onan had a social and cultural responsibility to do this one guy’s wife because if he did not, there would be no heir to a large amount of property and goods, or perhaps an entire kingdom. However, Onan pulled out and “spilled his seed” on the ground. Then God struck him down as punisHydromaxent. Many use this as a condemnation of masturbation, but in reality the matter is elsewhere. It wasn’t that Onan spilled “seed”, but that he did so in disobeying God, who had commanded Onan to produce a son who could be an heir to the large amount of property/large sum of money/kingdom. It wasn’t that the guy pulled out and let his load go outside the woman, but that God had commanded for the load to go inside the woman to carry on this one tribe or kingdom.
You said that Onan didn`t sin because he spilled the seed outside, but it was because he was meant to make a woman pregnant. Well, that`s where semen is supposed to go. You shouldn`t spill it outside. Masturbation IS a sin, whatever you`ll say. I don`t mean that I don`t masturbate, but it is a sin.

Penis Enlargement must be also a sin.... Body-building too.... A lot of things must be sins....
Now Penis Enlargement and body-building must be sins because I bet you spend more time and dedication with those that with God through prayer.. And also you should remain the way God left you, because it doesn`t matter your physical appearance, but your soul that isn`t anymore a priority.
I tell you it`s a sin.
But on the other hand you`ll say that if God didn`t want us to Penis Enlargement than He wouldn`t have revealed it to us... But maybe it wasn`t Him that had revealed it to us, if you know what I mean.... Or maybe it was just invented by a man and that`s that.

You probably wonder why the hell do I Penis Enlargement if I know that it`s a sin and I`m still doing it. It sound really stupid... Guess my faith isn`t that strong or maybe I believe that I won`t fulfill myself only by religion... I also have a physical part which I must satisfy.... I looking for a balance I think. Don`t know if it exists....

All that matters is that you are a good, decent human being. Im tired of people talking about the "sanctitiy" of marriage. Like its is SO sacred. But nobody addresses the fact that 50% of men cheat, and 30% of woman cheat, and about 50% of all marriages end in divorce.
Now Nexus, marriage used to be sacred when people believed in God. IF there aren`t people that believe in the holyness binding them togheter through marriage, than who will for them?
If people believed in God they wouldn`t cheat, they wouldn`t steal, they wouldn`t KILL... The world would be perfect... A Holy world......
Now there are more and more non-believers that attract more non-believers to their side...... We`re turning Earth to Hell.....
 
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Now Nexus, marriage used to be sacred when people believed in God. IF there aren`t people that believe in the holyness binding them togheter through marriage, than who will for them?
If people believed in God they wouldn`t cheat, they wouldn`t steal, they wouldn`t KILL... The world would be perfect... A Holy world......
Now there are more and more non-believers that attract more non-believers to their side...... We`re turning Earth to Hell..... [/B]


Didnt the priests believe in God, when they were fucking and molesting boys?

Didnt the guy who killed the abortion doctor in FL, claim he was doing "God's work" by killing the evil baby-killing doctor?

Didnt radical religious fundamentalists crash a fuckin plane into the WTC, because we are currently in a Holy War?

Dont tell me that just because people believe in religion, that the world would be a better place. Because if there was no religion there would be NO terrorism.

I believe in God, but I dont believe in the man-made bureaucracy of religion.

I dont want to get into a religion argument, but I just want to say one thing, religion stops rational common-sense thinking. Do you think God really cares about your sex life? Because I guarantee you "he" dosent. Dont claim to know God, because it is impossible.

If you want proof you can't know God, read Genesis. When Adam and Eve eat from the Tree of Knowledge. Get it, Knowledge?

The Bible is saying you CAN'T know God. As a good MOS member told me, you cant make God fit into a box.
 
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Didnt the priests believe in God, when they were fucking and molesting boys?
Those priests lost their faith long ago before they sinned... The lust took them over...
Didnt the guy who killed the abortion doctor in FL, claim he was doing "God's work" by killing the evil baby-killing doctor?
You know, murder is a sin because you take the person`s chance to redempt[don`t know if that`s the word] and to ask dor forgiveness. It wasn`t God that lead him to do so.

Didnt radical religious fundamentalists crash a fuckin plane into the WTC, because we are currently in a Holy War?
they were also religious fanatics that mis-interpretteed the holy scripture.

I dont want to get into a religion argument, but I just want to say one thing, religion stops rational common-sense thinking. Do you think God really cares about your sex life? Because I guarantee you "he" dosent. Dont claim to know God, because it is impossible.
Religion doesn`t stop you from thinking. if you act otherwise than what religion is telling you your behaviour is a self-destructive one. self-destructive -->irrational
God cares about our well-being. That is why there is the Holy Providence [don`t know if that`s the translation].
Sex is a material thing... You shouldn`t have sex for pleasure, but in order to multiply.
If you want proof you can't know God, read Genesis. When Adam and Eve eat from the Tree of Knowledge. Get it, Knowledge?
Are you saying that Knowlege is always in your benefit?
I can think of many things that I wish the manking didn`t know.
I own`t deny the benefits of knowledge, but the world we live in is an immoral one that uses science against God and therefore against itself.
Oh, you meant that God is keept you in the dark you form knowing Him by not leting you taste the apple?
I believe you are mis-interpretting too...
That "knowledge" is what was beyond the innocence in which human was created... I mean Sin...

The Bible is saying you CAN'T know God. As a good MOS member told me, you cant make God fit into a box.
I didn`t claim that I know God, but I do feel Him.
 
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Omul, im not sure if by bodybuilding you mean working out in general or the prideful obsession with your own looks. That is the point where, in my opinion, bodybuilding could be a sin, if you were basically worshipping yourself and putting yourself before God. Doing it for your health is not wrong, and to think it is wrong is too legalistic. God hates legalism, He is more concerned about your heart and mind. Its no longer wrong to eat pork and other old testament rules like it no longer apply. but at the same time if you lust after a woman in your head, it is just as bad as commiting adultery with her.

In my opinion, Penis Enlargement becomes sinful if it is self-worship, habitual, or involves sexual sin.

After the original post, im not sure about masturbation as a sin, i thought it was a type of fornication.
 
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In my opinion, Penis Enlargement becomes sinful if it is self-worship, habitual, or involves sexual sin.
How can Penis Enlargement be any different?
Penis Enlargement IS a habbit
Penis Enlargement involves sexual sin, sooner or later because this is the main purpose you Penis Enlargement, right? To fix up your lack of sexuality.
Penis Enlargement can be self-worshiping if you are thinking more of your penile size than you are of your soul, but after all I think you shouldn`t think of Penis Enlargement at all

And it is OK in my opinion to bodybuild in order to keep fit.
 

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