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This may have been brought up before, but for the first time, I actually believe this is true...To make a long story short I watch ���� on the computer everyday before going to work and before going to bed for years and I finally think ���� is the reason why I can't Keep it up during sex!!! I have been taking Viagra thinkin that is was something else?????

I kinda noticed that even after not being with a women for weeks at a time I still wasn't as into it as I should be?? I just thought hey Im gettin older maybe my T-Levels are fallin off, BUT NOOOO I think it is too much ����.

The ���� was satisfying something within me on a daly basis in such a way that I desired an actual physical relationship less than normal, hense a reduced libido, desire, need, whatever you wantto call it and BAM Erection goes down!!

This is an awesaome revelation for me...

Here is where it gets weird, you guys might think I am talkin crap but I felt this: I have been ���� free for like a week or a little more and I seriously think I felt some withdrawal symptoms as a result...I am irritable, I snapped at some people, I get angry and shit, short tempered, it is weird as hell...

What do you bros think do I sound like a ���� addict?
 
i know how you feel.i can have erections.���� doesnt affect erections.but in my opinion masturbation affects the time you spend having sex.if i masturbate on a daily basis i cant ejaculate during sex.i can only ejaculate if i dont have a masturbation session for 3-4 days.i believe that you should stop watching to much ���� and relax.and if you want to know how are your T-levels.have an hormonal blood test.it costs 16$.
 
Here is how I think ���� effects my erections: When I first began watching ���� I would erect no problem but after awhile(months/years whatever) I wasn't getting erections from watching ���� anymore I had to play with the unit to get up when before i would consistently rise without even touching the unit....That is why I think you can become desensitized to ���� over time as well...regardless I am cutting out the ���� bro..lol
 
���� doesn't desensitize... what it does do is raise your standards. Just aim higher. The girls you should be going for should be hotter and skilled. There should be obvious sexual chemistry between you and your partner(s). That's probably the most important thing of all. Otherwise it's just a waste of time. My 2 cents.
 
Deon, I am in the same boat as you. I am slowly weaning myself off. I love tits and ass and all that, but what really seals the deal is all the other stuff; teasing, seduction, innuendo, making a girl smile and blush... you know, none of the stuff ���� has.

Too much ���� and jackin off can definitely lead to reduced libido for lots of guys. I think, as guys we get all obsessed with orgasm while good sex involves much more than just intercourse.

���� is only bad when it interferes with your ability to have relationships.
 
Yeah I think it has I have lost my ability to have intimacy...I am letting my body re wire itself with no ���� or no masturbation. Watching tons of people have sex on the computer all the time has really reduced my sensativity to sex in general I think and that aint good bro...Thanks for the reply dude
 
Deon said:
Here is where it gets weird, you guys might think I am talkin crap but I felt this: I have been ���� free for like a week or a little more and I seriously think I felt some withdrawal symptoms as a result...I am irritable, I snapped at some people, I get angry and shit, short tempered, it is weird as hell...

What do you bros think do I sound like a ���� addict?

Most of the guys know here that I am a recovering Heroin Addict. Withdrawals were a normal part of my life for a while. ���� withdrawals, of course! I mean you get pleasure from ����, your endorphins are released, your seratonin levels are lifted. If you have experienced this pleasure for a minute you will feel withdrawals from it. Heroin is not much different (as any other addictive process)

I think it is great you are getting it under control as when the imaginary takes the place of the real we need to become worried.
 
Thanks for getting in on this Double D...I have felt this "Withdrawal" bro no body seems to believe me but I felt it, it was wild it was an aggression sort of thing I guess. ���� def replaced what I was gettin at home mainly because I am not attracted to my wife 5 foot oer 200 lbs and it aint muscle (It wasn't always like that, kids and health trouble) Anywy I found my sexual release from the ����. Then I got a couple girl friends and I still was having intimacy trouble had to be because of the ����!! I had to cut it out of my life...I believe we are different and ���� can effect people in different ways. I think some bros can watch as much ���� as they want for years and not have a problem, but not me...lol

Yeah DD the imagination is comin back bro and with that come the erections. Gotta get the body/mind thing reconnected...HA!
 
Deon said:
Thanks for getting in on this Double D...I have felt this "Withdrawal" bro no body seems to believe me but I felt it, it was wild it was an aggression sort of thing I guess. ���� def replaced what I was gettin at home mainly because I am not attracted to my wife 5 foot oer 200 lbs and it aint muscle (It wasn't always like that, kids and health trouble) Anywy I found my sexual release from the ����. Then I got a couple girl friends and I still was having intimacy trouble had to be because of the ����!! I had to cut it out of my life...I believe we are different and ���� can effect people in different ways. I think some bros can watch as much ���� as they want for years and not have a problem, but not me...lol

Yeah DD the imagination is comin back bro and with that come the erections. Gotta get the body/mind thing reconnected...HA!

...and remember, perversion for men is very broad. We can get turned on by a chick that is 90 lbs and in the same evening we can get into a chick twice her size. We could take interest in gay ����, out of curiosity, as we could she-males. Sexuality is extensive in it gamut. WHen we find ourselves with the same person for days, months and years it becomes boring. What I would suggest is thinking how it would be if she (or he) were not there. I guaranty you that your ����, masturbation, etc. would be based on the person who had abandoned you.

Sex is complex. As men we are constantly changing our views on what we find attractive. But, even though our thoughts may wane from our current relationship, I beckon you to remain dedicated to your partner. If she were not there I guaranty the ���� you select is as close to her as possible.

���� is strange but if we are honest with our selves we can see why it has the effect on us it does.
 
I gave up on the shit too, was dling way too much and not looking back now. My problem is that I can't concentrate, I'll be standing in the shower for 5 minutes trying to get a fucking hard-on because I get distracted by the wall tiles, or I'll start thinking about something else. O well, video tape it and send it off to Fox as a new citcom.
 
I gave up on the shit too, was dling way too much and not looking back now. My problem is that I can't concentrate, I'll be standing in the shower for 5 minutes trying to get a fucking hard-on because I get distracted by the wall tiles, or I'll start thinking about something else. O well, video tape it and send it off to Fox as a new citcom.

Wow, poetry in motion.

I think I have no T-levels. It doesn't really matter to me I just don't get a hard-on. I barely think of women until a woman is actually presented in-front of me or I am discussing matters such as these. That is when I get a hard-on but I stop it because I don't want a boner in public. So really, the only time i get a hard-on I have to repress it. That is my problem. I dunno about you guys, ���� is just boring in a way. Not even realistic. You have women who bought their looks with surgery going with men who have bought their dicks and bought their muscles through protein shakes and steroids. It just seems my standards are way to damn high.. I am looking at a world of purchased everything. I look at average women and I am like I see all your "faults" your not a jenna jameson. I mean I can't just blame ����. Blame the fashion world. Blame myself for thinking that this is remotely ok. Of the standards I have of women do I even meet my own standards of looks? Am I as beautiful as the women I desire? Imagine an overweight computer nerd with cheetos all over his shirt sweating and smelling lusting over "x" ���� star not accepting the average woman would that make any sense in society? I don't see what make beautiful beautiful either.... why can't I just accept the girl next door who will accept me too. Maybe that is why marriage is shit... you look for what is "better" for bragging and showing around the work room then turn around and find nothing is in common.
 
my problem toward ���� is a often probably obsession. A small viewing session of ���� i already just wanna whip it out and jack off right then and there. I think i have no morals in this department i probably need help. i dont think i haven;t seen a ���� movie all the way through without jacking off. I think it has major complications in my life since i have become more shy and less outgoing then i knew i was back then. Im slowly being more talkative to people, but getting out of the habit of wanting pron and just the feeling of a quick fix is a hard fix.

I find myself procrastinating more when i have ���� on my mind and its basically fucking myself over.
 
Thing is it's not natural everyday males behavior, it was like 20 25 years ago when started, it still isn't natural. It's about basic selfish need to satisfy your self, naturaly trough that we satisfy other person too. If mastrubate often watching ���� you just delaying or even making it impossible in your head to live naturaly, way it should be. I can totaly relate what you guys saying, it's like some epidemic, cure is obvious off course, stop watching. However, i find that mastrubating once weekly, keeping my self off hardcore ����, just a little erotica , are very effective for me, to have that sweet taste of real women in my mouth , makes me wanna chase more, talk more, meet more people. That 'sweet taste' for me is a key, and ���� is a tool for destruction of that taste....just some of may thoughts on this, i just couldn't passed not to post something..:)
 
Forgetting about using ���� for motivation for P.E., ����������� does isolate me from my significant other. The fantasy takes over and it affects my sex life. It IS a way not to engage with the important person or people in our lives. It's safe. When you use ���� as a substitute for a real sexual (emotional and intimate) relationship, which is so much more fulfilling, but also more subject to disappointments, you are limiting the possibilities of a much more exciting sex life. ���� might have its place, but when it takes over your sex life, it's time to cut back or eliminate it. It can definitely desensitize you to greater possibilities.
So long as you use ���� as your major sexual outlet, you'll never learn what real intimacy is all about. It's a terrible loss. And if you're involved in a long-term relationship it cheats you and your significant other. (Of course, I am not talking about using ���� as an adjunct to a sexual relationship. That is a different story).
 
What do you guys need to do for a clamping routine? I can jelq without watching ����, although I remember vids in my head to get it up. Is it a better idea to just get some sets of erotica pictures like the poster above 11x8 said? I'm guessing erotica is pics of women posing, everything that is said I can deffinately see from experience of being in my brain. Yeah I stopped for two or three months and you mind does change, you need to do more or else get bored. BUT I NEED TO CLAMP GOD DAMIT!
 
Hey, i wrote up on this topic long time ago. Excellent post, i am quiting it too. Want to get more excited with my hot lady doing very basic ordinary things. Keep posted on the effects, as i will.
 
Personally, I try to avoid ���� as much as possible. At one time I was addicted to it, wasted a huge amount of money on it, wasted time on it, and it encouraged me to do things in real life and have expectations which are harmful to myself and others.

Since quitting using it, I feel a lot better, happier, more free. I would recommend "quitting" to anyone.

For Penis Enlargement purposes, its tempting to use ���� to if I need an erection. However, in the past I've often found that using ���� with Penis Enlargement is a bad combination, because you may be tempted to ejaculate, and that can prematurely end what was going to be a good Jelq session. Your routine ends up spoiled, irregular, and taking up more time than needed.

So nowadays, if I need an erection for a Jelq session, a quarter of a Viagra pill is all I need. No ���� wanted or needed. When my Jelquing is finished, I put it back in my pants, my erection dies, and I get on with my life. No messy clean up required.
 
Ironkettle;262453 said:
Wow, poetry in motion.

I think I have no T-levels. It doesn't really matter to me I just don't get a hard-on. I barely think of women until a woman is actually presented in-front of me or I am discussing matters such as these. That is when I get a hard-on but I stop it because I don't want a boner in public. So really, the only time i get a hard-on I have to repress it. That is my problem. I dunno about you guys, ���� is just boring in a way. Not even realistic. You have women who bought their looks with surgery going with men who have bought their dicks and bought their muscles through protein shakes and steroids. It just seems my standards are way to damn high.. I am looking at a world of purchased everything. I look at average women and I am like I see all your "faults" your not a jenna jameson. I mean I can't just blame ����. Blame the fashion world. Blame myself for thinking that this is remotely ok. Of the standards I have of women do I even meet my own standards of looks? Am I as beautiful as the women I desire? Imagine an overweight computer nerd with cheetos all over his shirt sweating and smelling lusting over "x" ���� star not accepting the average woman would that make any sense in society? I don't see what make beautiful beautiful either.... why can't I just accept the girl next door who will accept me too. Maybe that is why marriage is shit... you look for what is "better" for bragging and showing around the work room then turn around and find nothing is in common.

I know it's an old post, and may be slightly off topic...but I must say that this is one of the most profound and accurate posts regarding society and sex that I've ever read. Truly honest and intelligent. I don't know if you post much anymore ironkettle, but you're a wise fellow. Just wanted to give props to you.
 
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