Supra said:
Permantly?
Thats what they claim. Kinda looks to be true too. I have been half following them for a few years now. Monsternutz used to be just a regular guy that was posting around the yahoo groups then went full blown after getting a manufacturer to make his own gear he started selling them and does pretty well from what a friend told me.
 
I have started my clomid today, here is my cycle

300mg (split over 3 doses) for day 1
100mg per day for 10 days
50 mg per day for 10 days
 
Ah...

Most studies show permanent damage to leydig cells (produce LH in the testes) at doses over 500iu every other day.

Um...1000iu a day?

What were you thinking bro?

You need to do a lot more research man.

A lot more before you try any of this stuff again.
 
Ahh well, I am not taking anymore, you can always reverse damage, I really doubt that I did any at all. My nuts seem to be fine, plus I am on IGF and Clomid. That will fix anything
 
Zol said:
BTW. make sure you have some Nolvadex on hand just in case signs of gyno show up. HCG being a femal hormone is aromatising.
How can HCG aromatize? It isn't even a steroid? And if it's a female hormone, it would already have aromatized...do you know what you are talking about? You are giving advice like you are a medical professional, and if you are, you should be ashamed. HCG can POSSIBLY cause gyno, but it is in no way related to it "aromatizing"...thinking of HCG aromatizing makes me cringe...it isn't even a steroid!! And testicles CAN recover from being desenitized; where did you get this information???
 
Goldmember,
HCG significantly increases testosterone, which of course can aromatize. HCG also upregulates the aromatase enzyme. This combination can easily cause gyno in those who are sensitive.

HCG overuse can also cause significant HPTA shutdown. HCG mimics LH, and as such your GNRH production will experience a negative feedback loop. This can make a man hypogonadal in as little as 3 weeks. Of course they don't realize it because as long as you are taking HCG you feel great and your body is producing testosterone. Once HCG is discontinued testosterone levels drop down to near 0.

There is a lot of information on these compounds on different bodybuilding boards. Check out Anabolicminds.com.
 
I guess I really wasn't taking into consideration how people use it in high doses for a long period of time. I was thinking of it as a form of PCT, where it is used for a max of two weeks at a moderate dose. You shouldn't see any gyno or significant HPTA shutdown if used as I described, but you are absolutely right in what you said.
HRTguy said:
Goldmember,
HCG significantly increases testosterone, which of course can aromatize. HCG also upregulates the aromatase enzyme. This combination can easily cause gyno in those who are sensitive.

HCG overuse can also cause significant HPTA shutdown. HCG mimics LH, and as such your GNRH production will experience a negative feedback loop. This can make a man hypogonadal in as little as 3 weeks. Of course they don't realize it because as long as you are taking HCG you feel great and your body is producing testosterone. Once HCG is discontinued testosterone levels drop down to near 0.

There is a lot of information on these compounds on different bodybuilding boards. Check out Anabolicminds.com.
 
wow this shit is crazy...you guys are extrem as hell stickin needles in your nuts.....wow...
 
actually, it isnt in the nuts. i wouldnt doubt if someone has though. crazy fuckers.
 
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