Serapax

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Hey guys,

One thing I've kept my eye on for some time is the use of sustained very low vacuum devices to increase breast size. There is quite a bit of clinical evidence that this works:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10845308&dopt=Abstract

The device is worn for 10-12 hours a day (every day) and a little electronic box keeps the pressure constant. The vendor site is http://www.dfwibodysculpture.com/brava.htm if anyone wants to see details of the device.

I would have thought that there would be big $$$$ if this could be adapted to penis enlargement, so I'm guessing perhaps it is not as possible as I think.

Any thoughts?

Cheers!
 
Yeah, sort of, but the pressures they use are likened to cabin pressure in a commercial jet. So perhaps that would mean the device could be a lot less bulky - expansion of the penis wont be so great, materials need to withstand less pressure, and the pump could be much lighter-duty.

I'd love to see something that could be comfortably be worn overnight...well, as comfortable as could be expected anyway.

Hmmm, I think I feel a trip to the hardware store and an invention coming on.... ;)
 
The only problem I see is that if during the twelve hours of wearing that vacuum pump is, if it coughed during that time, you or the wife could end up with tits on the back.
 
ElGeorgio said:
The only problem I see is that if during the twelve hours of wearing that vacuum pump is, if it coughed during that time, you or the wife could end up with tits on the back.

LOL!
 
Serapax said:
but the pressures they use are likened to cabin pressure in a commercial jet

The authors used a device that applied 20mmHg of negative pressure. Atmospheric pressure at sea level is 760mmHg or nearly 40-times greater than what you quote for "cabin pressure in a commercial jet", which I didn't see anywhere in the abstract. If you were in an atmosphere with a pressure of 20mmHg, your arterial partial pressure of oxygen would be about 2mmHg and you would be DEAD.

But, all that aside, reasonable penis pumping pressures are in the range of -3 to -5mmHg, from what I've read in the pumping forum.


Cheers!
 
The cabin pressure thing was in the vendor's website. I'm guessing they mean 20mmHg below ambient rather than absolute (ie. 740mmHg at sea-level). Even so, it does seem out of whack with what's used in penis pumps as you point out.

I also note that one of the authors of the clinical study is the seller of these things - not the greatest basis for scientific research. Some letters in reply have found somewhat less than the universal success claimed by the author - in the 50% satisfied range, and by using the device significantly longer than the website suggests.

Cheers!
 
I'm trying to sort this out in my own head - medical sites like http://www.maleinfertility.org/vacuumdevice.html indicate usual safe pressures for penis pumps being in the 200-250mmHg range which perhaps means negative pressure, indicating the breast device uses ten times less?

That would make more sense in terms of sustained very low pressure.
 
Serapax said:
I'm trying to sort this out in my own head - medical sites like http://www.maleinfertility.org/vacuumdevice.html indicate usual safe pressures for penis pumps being in the 200-250mmHg range which perhaps means negative pressure, indicating the breast device uses ten times less?

That would make more sense in terms of sustained very low pressure.

I don't know the answer to this since I'm not a pumper. A person can generate enough suction with their mouth to break blood vessels in skin (a hickey), however I don't think that the suction even approaches 200 mmHg. A residential vacuum cleaner can generate a negative pressure of 20-25 mmHg, but this is dynamic suction, not static like a pump or someone's mouth.

My best guess is that the figure from maleinfertility.org is off by one order of magnitude, and should read 20-25 mmHg. Any pumpers care to contribute?

Cheers!
Pri
 
hi,
i think i might have some chances on a girl soon. actually she is nice and looks ood too, but there is one small problem: small breasts. don't wory, i won't rush in that topic at the wrong time.

what could she do for them except surgery?

effects? side effects? permanent yes/no?
 
newbie09;352638 said:
hi,
i think i might have some chances on a girl soon. actually she is nice and looks ood too, but there is one small problem: small breasts. don't wory, i won't rush in that topic at the wrong time.

what could she do for them except surgery?

effects? side effects? permanent yes/no?

DLD and I are working on Natural breast enhancement pills. There are mild side effects(headache, nausea, etc...) The effects are permanent and results are noticeable within one month.
We are in the R&D stage but I will let you know when we start selling it.
 
ok, that sounds nice! thanks already! after dld's work helped me to reach some more you 2 gonne help the girl and me to feel more comfortable.

if you only could increase my bank balance properly too ;)
 
that would be step one ;)

by the way are there any "prototype test" results yet?
 
newbie09;352729 said:
by the way are there any "prototype test" results yet?

Nope but I get to be the guinea pig/lab rat whatever. I will keep a detailed log on what happens and when DLD and I agree it's ready we will market it. Your girl is the top of my list when it's time.
 
who knows whether she still will be when its time. first argue passed^^
 
newbie09;352741 said:
who knows whether she still will be when its time. first argue passed^^

Well keep me posted. I will be posting the results so you can keep up with the results, side effects, time it takes and the gains. Then you can tell her about it and she can make an informed decision on whether she wants to take it.
 
ok i will. actually im teased. dont get harmed in case something gets wrong.

actually i was thinking that there could be interesting exercises too, but a only low side effect result is the matter.

some female picture progress area like ours would be nice too. will there be one that i can show that to girls of the future?
 
newbie09;352746 said:
ok i will. actually im teased. dont get harmed in case something gets wrong.

actually i was thinking that there could be interesting exercises too, but a only low side effect result is the matter.

some female picture progress area like ours would be nice too. will there be one that i can show that to girls of the future?

I think instead of having a seperate section for the pics I will leave it up to the women to post pics if they want to.
 
they would be hard to find, because there will be much more men in the present forum.

by the way what "gains" would you like to get?
 
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