BPFSL vs BPEL

hnb · Apr 27, 2019

Hey guys. I started around 3 months ago on the newbie routine and i went from 7.5 inches in BPFSL to 8.7. My question is how much time does one need to transfer those BPFSL gains into EL gains ? I started doing the routine doing lenth work 7 days a week and girth work 5 days a week. The month after that i did both 7 days a week, the month after that i did lenth work twice a day and girth work once a day. This month i will be doing stretching 3 times a day and jelqing once a day. The month after that i will be doing it again 3 times a day but i will hold each stretch 60 and not 30 seconds. The month after that i will do the same but i will include 2 more mini workouts of other stretches like A stretches and etc. Im doing sprinting and intermittent fasting to up the levels of growth hormone. Im doing the kegels routine of course and i have a high protein bodybuilding diet to help with the results. Im always trying to up the volume of work every month until i reach my size. My goal is 23 cm in BPEL. I am a �� addict and i dont want to get erected to see my EL results. I only know i started at 7.2 BPEL and at some point i got to 7.7 inches. My main question is how much time does one need to transfer those BPFSL gains to into BPEL gains. And is it 100 % sure that my BPEL will catch up to my CURRENT BPFSL if i keep working on it ? (even if i dont make anymore gains) My plan is to retire at 9 inches BPEL but keep stretching once a week. jelqing 3 times a week and of course kegeling daily.
1. How much time is needed to transfer BPFSL lenth gains to BPEL ?
2. Is it 100 % sure that BPFSL gains transfer to BPEL ?
3. Should i lower the volume of jelqing to 3 times a week once i get to 6.3 inches in girth ? i started at 6 and gained a little.

Thank you all for the support. Im doing this for just a couple of months and the brotherhood has changed my life in many ways. I am way more open minded. And funny enough my work ethic and will power have increased. Thank you all again. Much love

REDZULU2003 · Apr 27, 2019

Takes time, sometimes months before you notice. Stay consistent, dont allow doubt to creep in, you will be rewarded. BPFSL always shows first before BPEL, and it happens gradually

DLD · Apr 27, 2019

To convert your BPEL to BPFL you need to close the gap between the 2. You need to do erect stretching, this is the only type of stretching that will close that gap. When we stretch flaccid gains are made in a flaccid length way, not in a erect way. In order to close this gap you need to tackle it with you erect stretches.

hnb · Apr 27, 2019

Is erect stretching the only way ? So if i don't do erect stretching my BPFL will never get to BPEL ?

hnb · Apr 27, 2019

REDZULU2003 said:
Takes time, sometimes months before you notice. Stay consistent, dont allow doubt to creep in, you will be rewarded. BPFSL always shows first before BPEL, and it happens gradually

Is it possible my BPFSL gains to never become BPEL if i keep training ?
And is it impossible to transfer them from BPFSL to BPEL without erect stretching ?

Jackxxx · Apr 28, 2019

Dont be so paranoid about transferring those gains to BPEL. They WILL come. Meanwhile, you are lucky to keep growing in flaccid state. If I could go back in time and be in your position, I WOULD KEEP GOING. Keep stretching and growing in a flaccid state. Do not worry, you will NOT grow to a foot while being 7.5" erected. Your erected size will come. The flaccid length gains are space to grow erected length. I DONT HAVE THAT SPACE!!!!
Take advantage of it.

hnb · Apr 28, 2019

thank you all for the support

REDZULU2003 · Apr 28, 2019

hnb said:
Is erect stretching the only way ? So if i don't do erect stretching my BPFL will never get to BPEL ?

I wouldn't say so, no. From my own experiences, it came about in time from just natural growth. As DLD put though, the erect stretching makes sense in making it more productive to close the gap.

DLD · Apr 28, 2019

The way to close that gap is to do erect stretching. This will not hurt you in anyway it will not cause any damage. It’s a very simple exercise, get yourself erect and stretch for five minutes straight out. You can do five sets of one minute per set or if you’re able to go the whole five minutes. The reason this works is because you’re stretching the penis when it is erect, The erectile tissue needs to be stretched to close that gap of flaccid stretch.

But as Red said you can also wait and as time goes by you’ll gain more length which will make up for the gap but the gap will always be there until you stretch erect.

hnb · Apr 28, 2019

Thank you all for your time guys but i think you didnt understand me. I am not talking about closing the gap between BPFSL and BPEL. I dont care if there is a gap. I mean. If my penis is 7.5 inches BPEL now and i do ONLY flaccid or semi flaccid will by BPEL grow ? I understand that to close the gap it would be cool to do erected stretching but my question was if by BPEL will grow from if i do ONLY flaccid stretching. I started with 18.5 cm BPEL and 19 cm BPFSL and now after i started PE my BPFSL is 22 cm. If i keep doing the routine WITHOUT erected stretching will this 3 cm (1.2) inch gain go to erected length ? Thank you

Jackxxx · Apr 28, 2019

Good question...I am not sure about the answer, of curse experts like DLD who is a jedi master will chime in. Just guessing, I would say YES. I guess if you keep the same routine, and you are gaining from it, you will continue growing your BPFSL and your erected size will come growing behind. So lets say that right now your BPEL is 18.5 and your BPSFL is 22, perhaps your BPSFL will grow to 25 and your BPEL to 22.5 over time. Of course it will not necessarily go that way. Perhaps under the same routine your BPSFL will slow down and your EL will start catching up.

hnb · Apr 29, 2019

Thank you guys. Im sorry because my english isnt that good and its really hard to express myself :D
Does ONLY flaccid/semi flaccid stretching lead to BPEL ( i know i already grew 3 cm in BPFSL)

DLD · Apr 29, 2019

Jackxxx said:
Good question...I am not sure about the answer, of curse experts like DLD who is a jedi master will chime in. Just guessing, I would say YES. I guess if you keep the same routine, and you are gaining from it, you will continue growing your BPFSL and your erected size will come growing behind. So lets say that right now your BPEL is 18.5 and your BPSFL is 22, perhaps your BPSFL will grow to 25 and your BPEL to 22.5 over time. Of course it will not necessarily go that way. Perhaps under the same routine your BPSFL will slow down and your EL will start catching up.

You are correct!

DLD · Apr 29, 2019

hnb said:
Thank you guys. Im sorry because my english isnt that good and its really hard to express myself LOL
Does ONLY flaccid/semi flaccid stretching lead to BPEL ( i know i already grew 3 cm in BPFSL)

I’m glad we could all help you!

hnb · Apr 29, 2019

DLD said:
I’m glad we could all help you!

Thank you again but i didnt understand. Does flaccid/semi flaccid stretching gain erected length ?

arkailija · Apr 30, 2019

hnb said:
Thank you again but i didnt understand. Does flaccid/semi flaccid stretching gain erected length ?

Eventually those flaccid gains could transform to erect length gains. As said, the flaccid stretched gains can come before erect gains.
I would do somesort of erect training to make your penis "understand" that there's more length and dimension where the blood has to go.

At times several men might have been struggling with gains, only noticing some small increments in flaccid state and no erect gains. But then, after a brief pause or some adjustment by the body, BOOM, there are those gains! Rest does come in as a big factor. We just can't yank our units 24/7 and expect to grow; the body needs rest to utilize the active time used for gaining.

Do your exercises, there are several routes to gaining and from my point of view flaccid / semi flaccid work can eventually bring erect gains. The time for that can be slightly longer though, but then again the gaining process does vary individually.

REDZULU2003 · Apr 30, 2019

You will see gains in the flaccid state first before the erect state.
We often track progress by bone pressed flaccid stretched length or BPFSL
This will grow before you notice bone pressed erect length or BPEL
Flaccid or semi erect stretching does give erect size gains

Avengere · Apr 30, 2019

arkailija said:
Eventually those flaccid gains could transform to erect length gains. As said, the flaccid stretched gains can come before erect gains.
I would do somesort of erect training to make your penis "understand" that there's more length and dimension where the blood has to go.

At times several men might have been struggling with gains, only noticing some small increments in flaccid state and no erect gains. But then, after a brief pause or some adjustment by the body, BOOM, there are those gains! Rest does come in as a big factor. We just can't yank our units 24/7 and expect to grow; the body needs rest to utilize the active time used for gaining.

Do your exercises, there are several routes to gaining and from my point of view flaccid / semi flaccid work can eventually bring erect gains. The time for that can be slightly longer though, but then again the gaining process does vary individually.

Same here. It is unfortunate when you get soft gains, but no hard gains. I hope hard gains come later

Jackxxx · Apr 30, 2019

Avengere said:
Same here. It is unfortunate when you get soft gains, but no hard gains. I hope hard gains come later

They DO come. It is just a logical thing. Lets say you succeed in growing 3 inches of flaccid state. Your erected length HAS to grow, otherwise when you get an erection your penis will actually shrink instead of expanding which will never occur. So as you go adding flaccid size, erect size will catch up after.

DLD · Apr 30, 2019

REDZULU2003 said:
You will see gains in the flaccid state first before the erect state.

We often track progress by bone pressed flaccid stretched length or BPFSL

This will grow before you notice bone pressed erect length or BPEL

Flaccid or semi erect stretching does give erect size gains

And one thing to add to close that gap between FSBP and BPSL is erect Stretching. Also as Red mentioned in another thread, you will close this gap without doing anything if you keep training it’ll be relative to the gains you make.

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