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I have been using a vac extender for 3 weeks for 4, 5, and 6 hours in working up to 8 a day. I am satisfied with the device, as I have an unusually cumbersome foreskin and really just could not stretch the bastard normally or with any respectable force.

As a precaution I do take it off every 30 minutes to let it breathe. I also use a lotion with vitamin e and aloe vera every night. I also use no suction on off days and use it in a more SRT type of manner.

I am absolutely continuing on with this for many months after I am at 8 hours daily. I'm just wondering if there's any tips or tricks, other than lighter tension, that might make it a little less unpleasant.
 
Hmm, I have never used a vac extender, so I can't really help with making it more comfortable. How exactly is it unpleasant though? I imagine if you give some more details as to what the issue is then someone here can better help you.

I was also going to mention, isn't the point of a Vac extender to be able to attach for multiple hours at a time? I personally believe that the longer a set lasts for length gains the better they will come. If you can, I would recommend wearing it multiple hours before taking it off (I am suggesting building up your set time gradually, not all of a sudden).
 
I'm actually using it at as high a tension as I can handle in 30 minute segments, and alternating between holding a mild stretch for ten minutes and 100 jelqs while using a cock ring. I'd at least be doing hourly jelqs because I'm adamantly testing the principal that dilated cells will net a higher gain.

My only real issue is it does dry out the glans, and I'm fine working through that if it's inevitable, but I do hope someone here has some exp I don't so my experiment can be less irritating. I'm fairly convinced it's going to be a rough 6 months.

In regard to longer sets at less tension, I can't say. I am already seeing higher marks on the bathmate so we'll see how well my canary mentality does with this experiment.
 
Longth;624092 said:
I have been using a vac extender for 3 weeks for 4, 5, and 6 hours in working up to 8 a day. I am satisfied with the device, as I have an unusually cumbersome foreskin and really just could not stretch the bastard normally or with any respectable force.

As a precaution I do take it off every 30 minutes to let it breathe. I also use a lotion with vitamin e and aloe vera every night. I also use no suction on off days and use it in a more SRT type of manner.

I am absolutely continuing on with this for many months after I am at 8 hours daily. I'm just wondering if there's any tips or tricks, other than lighter tension, that might make it a little less unpleasant.

every 30 minutes??? you should be able to keep it on for hours
 
youknowme123321;624126 said:
every 30 minutes??? you should be able to keep it on for hours

Really not the point, and at max tension I'm being cautious about blisters.

As I said, during breaks I'm either holding a mild stretch or doing jelqs with a cock ring. Very much not the point of the thread.

As I said I have a particularly cumbersome foreskin and would appreciate any experience that makes mine less agitating.
 
Also as an FYI for this method, I've broken the 8 inch plain on the bathmate x40.

If that stands true at measurement time that's over a quarter inch in under three weeks. Without making it to the full 8 hour routine I've designed for this method.

The method need not be questioned. Just very uncomfortable and would love some help there. :)
 
Longth;624128 said:
Really not the point, and at max tension I'm being cautious about blisters.

As I said, during breaks I'm either holding a mild stretch or doing jelqs with a cock ring. Very much not the point of the thread.

As I said I have a particularly cumbersome foreskin and would appreciate any experience that makes mine less agitating.

you mentioned only wearing it for 30 minutes and if you have one single point and that is the ONLY thing you want anyone to discuss please say that. when you mention multiple things whether related to each other or not people may comment on one thing or everything.

if it is uncomfortable at high tension i can understand the need to remove it. or if you want to remove it to perform other exercises that also makes sense. if it is just for the purpose of precaution against blisters, 30 minutes of high tension won't lead to blisters for anyone. maybe if you are on blood thinners or naturally more prone to bruising. extenders don't get that much tension. lotion is great. i use it b/c i get dry glans from hanging and very high tension vacuum extending with a phallosan/extender combo

are you unable to move your skin out of the way of the glans when applying the vac extender and some of it gets bunched up inside the cap?

Longth;624129 said:
The method need not be questioned.

try to chill out man. no need to be defensive. just talking. try being a little more open to discussion, it can lead to advancements. i mean you also just added that you have made a 1/4" in BM gains in 3 weeks. maybe there is something to this method and it might not have come out if i wasn't interested in your only wearing for 30 min segments. just discussing things longth. we are all here to learn
 
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But I added a smiley trying to seem less butt headed. :(

I am considering raising the duration and I'd love to be able to do full on hour of high tension to lessen what I consider wasted time. Hoping I get used to it to that degree and beyond, but I am not shy about aggressive tension. I summize the high tension with normal tension to prevent the retracting reaction.

I'm also a bit heavy on girth these days. Well over 5 flaccid, so there's some pinching, and clamped veins. It is a bit necessary to take frequent breaks. Could also be because I have a lot of foreskin through prior pe and a semi circumcision. Regardless, I am not shy about pushing through pain.

Don't want you to think I'm all braisen and ridiculous. I just have an idea I'm sticking with for a while.
 
Longth;624134 said:
Don't want you to think I'm all braisen and ridiculous. I just have an idea I'm sticking with for a while.

That makes total sense to me. Seems like you are going about your extender use scientifically, you are trying out one idea first and only after a set amount of time changing up the variables (like how long you do each individual set). You said it has been three weeks now; when are you going to measure? I'm curious to see the results as I have heavily been considering buying a vac attachment as my next PE purchase.

Again, I really have no information to give you about vac extenders otherwise I would try to help. One thought though is why don't you contact the maker of the vac extender you bought, explain your issue, and see if they have any recommendations. My guess is that depending on their level of customer service they would have the most info on this issue since they probably exclusively deal with their product and must have heard of a similar problem to yours.

I, for example, use a Bib Starter to hang with and from the start I have always contacted Bib personally with my questions in addition to using this forum. Good luck!
 
If you can wear miracle extender with vaccum or non vaccum for 8 to 12 hours per day without takin breaks 5 to 6 days a week then in 724 hours you gain 1 inch. Spring based extenders won't give this fast results. Traction theory means continuous pull and that is not possible in spring based. I have x4 and my miracle slider will come next week.
 
I do agree that longer durations would make you feel much better as the pull is constant and the vac pressure is not as high as to cause the above mentioned issues. I suggest contacting the main site, yes. Don't they have a user-forum where all users can ask questions and find solutions? I know the SG has... :)
 
It's something to consider if things refuse to go my way. But they do boil down to an hour long because during one of the breaks per hour I literally hold it extended as taught as I can. And during the other break I'm reaching an expanded erection with a cock ring and doing 100 jelqs or edging. Up to 8 hours a day there, and with everything else I'm up to about 12 hours a day in an expanded state one way or the other.

I'm definitely looking to get rid of the non girth related breaks possibly within a week or two. The logic of the high tension is traditional stretching has worked for a long time. So doing higher tension could work out in a sort of super extender kind of way, provided my glans survive, which seems to be under control with a modified 2 on 1 off 3 on 1 off.
 
Zambrodom3;624644 said:
I do agree that longer durations would make you feel much better as the pull is constant and the vac pressure is not as high as to cause the above mentioned issues. I suggest contacting the main site, yes. Don't they have a user-forum where all users can ask questions and find solutions? I know the SG has... :)

I'm using the PMP at high tension and getting good fatigue only problem is the blisters that can come with vacum extending so you have to watch that
 
High force is not what the vac extenders are good at. The other posters are right that the purpose is to be worn for lighter forces for longer hours, I've had many posts on this exact subject.

It's somewhat counterproductive to argue with your methodology if you're definitely seeing gains, but it's also impossible to argue against higher vac forces being to blame for sudden blisters and ruptures, even if one has spent hundreds of hours adapting to the units.

Having said that, one can also get blisters/ruptures using just medium forces if going for huge lengths of time. While the vac units aren't great at doing high forces, trying to do higher forces for brief periods of time might actually be safer than doing medium forces for protracted lengths of time (like overnight).

If you're going along ok in that sort of 'high intensity interval' method with no blowouts, great job. -- If you want a higher safety factor and to explore the vac's effectiveness more in line with the way they were designed, back off of the force quite a bit and go for longer time and track how that seems to be going for you.

The more/longer time you go for, the more you'll probably need to back off of the forces used if any blistering (or -strange- toughening of the glans tissue) is a problem .. because the blistering can occur across-time as well, if it's a lot of time, even at lower forces.

- I feel like I could simplify that information on a second try ...

If what you're doing is working for you, and you're not getting occasional destructive results from it, keep it up .. even if people disagree with it.

If you decide to go for waaaay longer times, then you'll want to also go for waaaay lighter forces at first .. because longer times with medium forces can cause destructive issues as well.


For the dryness ... look up a product called NaPCA (sodium pyrrolidone carboxylic acid) , - not really an 'acid' .. just a salt compound in a spray bottle .. either regular or with aloe. It's a humectant salt that absorbs moisture from everything and then holds it in the cells. Remarkable stuff. Supposed to be the difference between baby skin and old people skin. One slight caveat if you're currently banging people ... a highly PCA moisturized penis seems to have more frictive drag .. and that's going to add up to extra sensation during sex which might negatively affect one's ability to go as long as they usually would. So, just keep that in mind ... or just only use the PCA on the glans and not the shaft.
 
Asanon;624999 said:
High force is not what the vac extenders are good at. The other posters are right that the purpose is to be worn for lighter forces for longer hours, I've had many posts on this exact subject.

It's somewhat counterproductive to argue with your methodology if you're definitely seeing gains, but it's also impossible to argue against higher vac forces being to blame for sudden blisters and ruptures, even if one has spent hundreds of hours adapting to the units.

Having said that, one can also get blisters/ruptures using just medium forces if going for huge lengths of time. While the vac units aren't great at doing high forces, trying to do higher forces for brief periods of time might actually be safer than doing medium forces for protracted lengths of time (like overnight).

If you're going along ok in that sort of 'high intensity interval' method with no blowouts, great job. -- If you want a higher safety factor and to explore the vac's effectiveness more in line with the way they were designed, back off of the force quite a bit and go for longer time and track how that seems to be going for you.

The more/longer time you go for, the more you'll probably need to back off of the forces used if any blistering (or -strange- toughening of the glans tissue) is a problem .. because the blistering can occur across-time as well, if it's a lot of time, even at lower forces.

- I feel like I could simplify that information on a second try ...

If what you're doing is working for you, and you're not getting occasional destructive results from it, keep it up .. even if people disagree with it.

If you decide to go for waaaay longer times, then you'll want to also go for waaaay lighter forces at first .. because longer times with medium forces can cause destructive issues as well.


For the dryness ... look up a product called NaPCA (sodium pyrrolidone carboxylic acid) , - not really an 'acid' .. just a salt compound in a spray bottle .. either regular or with aloe. It's a humectant salt that absorbs moisture from everything and then holds it in the cells. Remarkable stuff. Supposed to be the difference between baby skin and old people skin. One slight caveat if you're currently banging people ... a highly PCA moisturized penis seems to have more frictive drag .. and that's going to add up to extra sensation during sex which might negatively affect one's ability to go as long as they usually would. So, just keep that in mind ... or just only use the PCA on the glans and not the shaft.

I've noticed exactly what you've described here. During "off" days I use significantly lighter tension and can generally wear it until I need a trip to the bathroom. With the heavy tension discomfort is going to be inevitable but the hope is it winds up worth it.

I also understand the typical usage and I get that allowing full retraction is counter productive. To compensate I'll be doing some fulcrum stretches aimed at stretching the chord. Unless I find something better.

I will absolutely look into the lotion you mentioned. Anything that makes down time more productive is a blessing to me here. Thanks for the thought out reply.
 
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