Average Size - Grow VS Show - New Thinking...

BIGDADDYBOOTYBREAKER · Oct 4, 2016

As we speak I fall just above what google says in both hard and soft. I am about 4-4.125 soft(assuming no turtling due to temperature) and about 5.67 without taking into consideration the upwards curve otherwise 5.75-5.85 nbpel.

But yes definitely flaccid length is a concern to me, I would like to become more of a shower than a grower. I think PE has helped alot with that but yeah I would like to get as close to my erect size flaccid as I possibly can.

habban · Oct 4, 2016

rocky1243;708248 said:
As we speak I fall just above what google says in both hard and soft. I am about 4-4.125 soft(assuming no turtling due to temperature) and about 5.67 without taking into consideration the upwards curve otherwise 5.75-5.85 nbpel.

But yes definitely flaccid length is a concern to me, I would like to become more of a shower than a grower. I think PE has helped alot with that but yeah I would like to get as close to my erect size flaccid as I possibly can.

Maybe leave some difference for the growth of surprise

kyomoto · Oct 4, 2016

The average looks right.
I'd be either grower or shower. I don't mind any but I'm aiming for shower since I've been a grower and just want to see what it would be like having a big flaccid

Big Schwanz Acht · Oct 4, 2016

My BM has morphed me into a shower, (previously I was a dramatic grower...maybe 2.50" flaccid to 6.50" erect) now I'm about 5.50"-6.00" flaccid (again depending on temperature/angst/etc.) and 7.875" erect. I no longer have any locker room anxiety or 'stage fright' at the urinal. Ultimately I'd like to hang consistently around 6" and 9" erect

DLD · Oct 4, 2016

I am definitely a shower!

kyomoto · Oct 4, 2016

Big Schwanz Acht;708295 said:
My BM has morphed me into a shower, (previously I was a dramatic grower...maybe 2.50" flaccid to 6.50" erect) now I'm about 5.50"-6.00" flaccid (again depending on temperature/angst/etc.) and 7.875" erect. I no longer have any locker room anxiety or 'stage fright' at the urinal. Ultimately I'd like to hang consistently around 6" and 9" erect

Why would you have locker room anxiety if you knew you were big

Spamjavelin76 · Oct 4, 2016

I'd rather be a shower. I don't get 'im out flaccid because I'm really small (well actually I'm bigger flaccid now thanks to PE, although still not ready to show flaccid).

GirthGains · Oct 4, 2016

I would rather be a shower. The larger the flaccid the better and more potential for erect gains as the flaccid grows bigger in my opinion.

GirthGains · Oct 4, 2016

Big Schwanz Acht;708295 said:
My BM has morphed me into a shower, (previously I was a dramatic grower...maybe 2.50" flaccid to 6.50" erect) now I'm about 5.50"-6.00" flaccid (again depending on temperature/angst/etc.) and 7.875" erect. I no longer have any locker room anxiety or 'stage fright' at the urinal. Ultimately I'd like to hang consistently around 6" and 9" erect

Congrats big schwanz on the gains. What was your pe routine and how long did it take to obtain your gains?

Big Schwanz Acht · Oct 4, 2016

GirthGains;708355 said:
Congrats big schwanz on the gains. What was your pe routine and how long did it take to obtain your gains?

Thanks...my 1st attempt at PE started almost exactly 2 years ago with a Quick Extender Pro that I absolutely hated and ended-up giving away to a member here. I discovered the BM shortly thereafter and was immediately hooked, (fortunately I didn't discover the VacuVin mod until a couple months of use or I probably would have done some damage, lol). Basic routine right now is warm-up w/light stretches in all directions under hot shower water, then bundles (up/down/side/side) for a minute each, then my modified fulcrum downward stretch for at least 2 minutes, then 10 minutes in my Goliath at 90% EQ and maybe 80% pressure, then SSJ's or just plain-Jane jelq's to get rid of any FR, then 10 minutes in my X40 at 90%/90% where I'll also do side-to-side, up/down and straight-out expressive stretches, then some more jelq's/SSJ's, then 15+ minutes at 100%/100% kegeling and RKing while compressing the gaiter into my pelvis as hard as possible and as many reps as I can do which also matches my Kegel rhythm, (press BM hard while Kegeling, let go and RK...about 100 times). If I'm in the mood and there's still hot water left, I'll edge for 5-10 minutes. TaDa!
Started at just over 6.50 BPEL and 5.50 EG, I'm now almost 8"X7" depending on EQ and if the tape-measure is anywhere in sight, lol

Big Schwanz Acht · Oct 4, 2016

kyomoto;708329 said:
Why would you have locker room anxiety if you knew you were big

I said 'I no longer have anxiety' and 'knowing you're big' takes a long time with multiple reinforcements...there're decades of mental images needing to be re-booted, being as young as you are you're fortunate not to have developed any 'brain-calluses'

kyomoto · Oct 4, 2016

Big Schwanz Acht;708377 said:
I said 'I no longer have anxiety' and 'knowing you're big' takes a long time with multiple reinforcements...there're decades of mental images needing to be re-booted, being as young as you are you're fortunate not to have developed any 'brain-calluses'

I'm aware. I'm asking you why you had that mentality before. Was it the common embarassment in young kids?

Big Schwanz Acht · Oct 5, 2016

kyomoto;708383 said:
I'm aware. I'm asking you why you had that mentality before. Was it the common embarassment in young kids?

From the time I started Little League and CYO Basketball at the age of 8, I knew I was a pretty good athlete. My first realization that I was a 'late bloomer' was the 1st shower after 7th grade football practice and my 3 best buds all had at least some 'hair' and I didn't. This was embarrassing and I found ways to not have to be naked. Fast-forward to freshmen year of basketball...I played on a select team w/a bunch of inner-city kids, (mostly black) and they were all 'showers' and I was an extreme 'grower' (especially after a two-hour practice of running lines and doing drills...I looked like a button).
The only time growing-up that I had a positive reaction was with my 1st GF and she remarked how big I was, but we were teenagers and I was either her 2nd or third. All my GF's after her were very complimentary and I became highly sensitive to their bodies and what they liked, so sex was fully satisfying.
Needless to say, there was an imprint that followed my psyche for many decades until I stumbled-upon this site...I knew deep-down that I wanted more than just a satisfying sex-life and getting bigger was/is the answer, (for me)

BIGDADDYBOOTYBREAKER · Oct 5, 2016

Big Schwanz Acht;708401 said:
From the time I started Little League and CYO Basketball at the age of 8, I knew I was a pretty good athlete. My first realization that I was a 'late bloomer' was the 1st shower after 7th grade football practice and my 3 best buds all had at least some 'hair' and I didn't. This was embarrassing and I found ways to not have to be naked. Fast-forward to freshmen year of basketball...I played on a select team w/a bunch of inner-city kids, (mostly black) and they were all 'showers' and I was an extreme 'grower' (especially after a two-hour practice of running lines and doing drills...I looked like a button).
The only time growing-up that I had a positive reaction was with my 1st GF and she remarked how big I was, but we were teenagers and I was either her 2nd or third. All my GF's after her were very complimentary and I became highly sensitive to their bodies and what they liked, so sex was fully satisfying.
Needless to say, there was an imprint that followed my psyche for many decades until I stumbled-upon this site...I knew deep-down that I wanted more than just a satisfying sex-life and getting bigger was/is the answer, (for me)

Reminds me when I was about... 20-21 don't recall. I met this girl at bar and told her jokingly that I was 45, she believed it somehow was turned on by it. Took her to my friend's friend apt's bathroom. And when I took my pants off I was flaccid and she said "you are small". So I stuck it in her butt... lol Scarred me for life.

kyomoto · Oct 5, 2016

Big Schwanz Acht;708401 said:
From the time I started Little League and CYO Basketball at the age of 8, I knew I was a pretty good athlete. My first realization that I was a 'late bloomer' was the 1st shower after 7th grade football practice and my 3 best buds all had at least some 'hair' and I didn't. This was embarrassing and I found ways to not have to be naked. Fast-forward to freshmen year of basketball...I played on a select team w/a bunch of inner-city kids, (mostly black) and they were all 'showers' and I was an extreme 'grower' (especially after a two-hour practice of running lines and doing drills...I looked like a button).
The only time growing-up that I had a positive reaction was with my 1st GF and she remarked how big I was, but we were teenagers and I was either her 2nd or third. All my GF's after her were very complimentary and I became highly sensitive to their bodies and what they liked, so sex was fully satisfying.
Needless to say, there was an imprint that followed my psyche for many decades until I stumbled-upon this site...I knew deep-down that I wanted more than just a satisfying sex-life and getting bigger was/is the answer, (for me)

Ahh okay.

GirthGains · Oct 5, 2016

Big Schwanz Acht;708295 said:
My BM has morphed me into a shower, (previously I was a dramatic grower...maybe 2.50" flaccid to 6.50" erect) now I'm about 5.50"-6.00" flaccid (again depending on temperature/angst/etc.) and 7.875" erect. I no longer have any locker room anxiety or 'stage fright' at the urinal. Ultimately I'd like to hang consistently around 6" and 9" erect

Big Schwanz Acht;708375 said:
Thanks...my 1st attempt at PE started almost exactly 2 years ago with a Quick Extender Pro that I absolutely hated and ended-up giving away to a member here. I discovered the BM shortly thereafter and was immediately hooked, (fortunately I didn't discover the VacuVin mod until a couple months of use or I probably would have done some damage, lol). Basic routine right now is warm-up w/light stretches in all directions under hot shower water, then bundles (up/down/side/side) for a minute each, then my modified fulcrum downward stretch for at least 2 minutes, then 10 minutes in my Goliath at 90% EQ and maybe 80% pressure, then SSJ's or just plain-Jane jelq's to get rid of any FR, then 10 minutes in my X40 at 90%/90% where I'll also do side-to-side, up/down and straight-out expressive stretches, then some more jelq's/SSJ's, then 15+ minutes at 100%/100% kegeling and RKing while compressing the gaiter into my pelvis as hard as possible and as many reps as I can do which also matches my Kegel rhythm, (press BM hard while Kegeling, let go and RK...about 100 times). If I'm in the mood and there's still hot water left, I'll edge for 5-10 minutes. TaDa!
Started at just over 6.50 BPEL and 5.50 EG, I'm now almost 8"X7" depending on EQ and if the tape-measure is anywhere in sight, lol

Thanks for the quick reply. That sounds like a good routine. Can you go into detail about your modified downward fulcrum stretch?

Big Schwanz Acht · Oct 5, 2016

GirthGains;708423 said:
Can you go into detail about your modified downward fulcrum stretch?

With my left hand, palm facing down I grab about mid-shaft and roll my pinky and ring finger over my glans and around my thumb creating a sort of 'hook'...with my right hand, I grab the base with my thumb behind the scrotum and start pulling with both hands downward and side/side

GirthGains · Oct 7, 2016

Big Schwanz Acht;708427 said:
With my left hand, palm facing down I grab about mid-shaft and roll my pinky and ring finger over my glans and around my thumb creating a sort of 'hook'...with my right hand, I grab the base with my thumb behind the scrotum and start pulling with both hands downward and side/side

So the thumb should be grabbing right behind the glans?

DLD · Oct 7, 2016

Also, don't sleep on LazyAssStretches, if you are sitting a lot these really help increase flaccid size.

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