To me, any study which states averaged girth to exceed averaged length loses credibility right from the start. I mean, come on, that's ridiculous. How many guys on this board have more girth than length????
And in terms of self-measurement, how else do you expect it to be done? I'm sorry, but I could not maintain a raging erection while some old fart researcher handled it, placed a ruler next to it, then wrapped a measuring tape around it.
I'll give you one more thing to chew on: To my suprise, most of these studies are NBP!!! In fact, almost all of them are. I focus on BP, because I feel I can get more measurements consistently that way, and my measurement doesn't fluctuate with my bodyweight. However, I've read study after study which gives measurement directions which clearly correspond with NBP. And the Kinsey measurement with a flimsy index card obviously had to be NBP as well....or just try shoving an index card deeply into your pubis.
I'm not saying all this to be argumentative, I'm simply trying to be objective. If you think that most guys are thicker than they are long, or that they only average 5" in length, so be it. I'll say you're possibly in for a rude awakening. But we have Penis Enlargement, so no need to kid ourselves.
One more thing, from 1985-87, I was a bouncer at a very hot Pittsburgh nightclub. I worked Wednesdays, Fridays, Saturdays (& Sundays were Under 21 nights). In just over 2 years, I worked over 400 shifts there....and snagged quite a bit of pussy. At the time I was 6.5 (BPenis EnlargementL) x 5.2 (midshaft), yet I never once had a gal comment on my length. :( but true.
I had gals tell me, "Ooh, a thickie!" (at 5.2, imagine that). Yet none ever said I was long. Yet, according to that cracked study, my girth was slighly under average, but my length was almost 1.5" more - the exact opposite of all the female feedback I ever got (noteworthy girth, ho-hum length).....yeah.............RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.
 
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Originally posted by WaxN
But we have Penis Enlargement, so no need to kid ourselves.

EXACTLY, Average size really makes no difference to us. We have the ability to change our size.
 
Who said anything about girth being greater than length? You're just arguing with a phantom-voice in your head. I FOR ONE, did not say anything like that. My current length is greater than my girth, it always has been. I intend to keep it that way, even after my Penis Enlargement endeavors.


And while you're right that a study which claims girth to be greater than length sounds a bit odd, I don't see why you have to jack UP the average (from 5.0-6) to 6+inches. I agree that the avg length is greater, but I disagree that the invalidity of this study somehow make the average length longer.
 
Let's just keep it simple.

Average length: 6 in. (not bone pressed)
Average girth: 5 in.

I don't care if it's a bit more than that or a bit less. I just want to GROW!
 
i still feel that is to big, i mean 6" NBP can mean the person can rage from 6.25 to 7" BP. I say average length is around 6"BP. But i agree on a 5" girth.
 
I'm not certain, but I believe these figures are the same as on a web site recently posted at Thunder's. I believe that it's self-reporting, and the directions for girth were to measure around the thickest part of base. Length was to place ruler on top of penis and press firmly, so would be pseudo-bone-pressed anyway.
 
Originally posted by j-penis
Who said anything about girth being greater than length? You're just arguing with a phantom-voice in your head. I FOR ONE, did not say anything like that. My current length is greater than my girth, it always has been. I intend to keep it that way, even after my Penis Enlargement endeavors.


And while you're right that a study which claims girth to be greater than length sounds a bit odd, I don't see why you have to jack UP the average (from 5.0-6) to 6+inches. I agree that the avg length is greater, but I disagree that the invalidity of this study somehow make the average length longer.
j-penis,
What in the world are you talking about? I'm hardly "arguing with a phantom-voice" in my head. Do you even know what this thread is about? It's about a penis size survey, and the results posted (at the top of this thread) are as follows:

Flaccid Length = 3.43
Erect Length = 5.03
Erect Girth= 5.23
Erection Angle= 105.7 degress.

I'm not sure which math you're familiar with, but if you look at "Erect Length = 5.03" and "Erect Girth=5.23" you'll see that the erect girth has a greater numerical value (5.23 > 5.03) than erect length.
Maybe you're reading some phantom thread in your head.
 
Our society is getting fatter, so the NBP measurements will go down. Makes sense, the girth though will stay the same.

-ItsElectric
 
Originally posted by WaxN
j-penis,
What in the world are you talking about? I'm hardly "arguing with a phantom-voice" in my head. Do you even know what this thread is about? It's about a penis size survey, and the results posted (at the top of this thread) are as follows:

Flaccid Length = 3.43
Erect Length = 5.03
Erect Girth= 5.23
Erection Angle= 105.7 degress.

I'm not sure which math you're familiar with, but if you look at "Erect Length = 5.03" and "Erect Girth=5.23" you'll see that the erect girth has a greater numerical value (5.23 > 5.03) than erect length.
Maybe you're reading some phantom thread in your head.


Sorry, didn't mean to start an argument.

But I still stand firmly against that the average length is NOT over 6 inches. I think this study over-measured the girth while undermeasuring the length, but only by about .5 inches.
 
All of the recent surveys have indicated less than 6" length (there have been quite a few). I have seen ranges from the low of 5.03" to 5.87". I also agree that anything that allows the person to measure themself will always be skewed at least 1/2 inch. Most men would think that exagerrating by 1/2" would not be that bad. Nobody wants to feel like they don't measure up in that department. Hopefully, we are all posting true measurements on this site.
kcee
 
There are just so many different ways to measure. Even BP... Like sitting down, standing up, rotating your hips, etc. It's hard to have a definite survey. You also have to consider that many men that don't measure up will not show up to a voluntary measuring survey, so the results will be skewed.

Like DLD has said, average doesnt matter to us, because we can change it, so don't worry about what average is! :)
 
Unless there are any promiscuous gays on this board, we're all basically "guessing" - or at least *choosing* the surveys we want to believe.
Why any guy here would be sure that the average is not 6" is beyond me - unless he's seen a lot of erect penises in his lifetime. I can remember seeing many flaccid units that were over 5" long in school locker rooms & gym locker rooms. I've seen flaccid units that were 7 or 8 inches long.
Furthermore, the Kinsey study (while it has it's detractors) is still probably the most respected, long-standing study. Kinsey found that 83% of all units were between 5 & 7 inches erect. I accept that.
And, as I said, I threw my tool around a bit in the early-mid 1980's. I was 6.5 (bpel) x 5.2 (midshaft). No gal ever shown any signs of being impressed with my length (i.e., 6.5" was no big deal). To somehow think that the average is 5" would put me at 30% longer, yet no gals noted that.
At �other forum�, luvdadus (a physician) thinks the average bpel is about 6.3". I know when I was about 13 and my buddies compared boners at a sleepover, most were about my length, a few were more and only 1 was less. That's the extent of my boner experience first-hand. I tend to accept that.
 
Waxn, I with you on this one.

Any survey which shows average length between 5" - 5.5" has to be talking non-bone pressed.

I started with 5.5" BPenis EnlargementL and know that I was below average.

I'd like to say 'lets just get on with it and not worry about average sizes', but here I am wasting my time on this subject ;) Oh well....what can I do? :D
 
*shakes head* :D

I'm gonna say what I say here with all due respect to DLD. He is providing a wonderful and valuable service to many men who wish to enhance their lives in this particular aspect.

Now allow me to continue...


I respect everyone's opinions here. But I think that a lot of men's perceptions are strongly influenced by their own insecurities. Women generally do not notice a half-inch difference.

So SlamInTheLamb, I would say that your feelings of inadequacy (like being .5 inches below the 6 inch average was a crushing thing) was all in your head. I am 5.5 myself (if I lose the 10 pounds of fat I have, I prob won't even need to bone press), and I feel average. I honestly do. I don't feel grossly inadequate though, and that's why my goals are moderate (around 6.5-7 inches). Everyone has their own goals here, but I snicker a little bit when guys talk about wanting to become 11 inches or something. :D To me, that's just sili. Talk about an absolutely *huge* complex.... Can you imagine what a freak one must look like with an 11 inch dong? It's all good, though...

Then again, I'm a pretty good looking and stylish guy with other things going in other areas, so maybe I'm using that as a crutch. Sorry if I sound a bit self-absorbed, but that's how I see it.

If you think having an 11 inch dick will make your life wonderful, I think you're wrong. If only life were as simple as that - then I'd spend every single waking moment tuggin on my dick, and I'd be ruling the world. __________ probably doesn't feel like he owns the world because he has an enormous dong. He's just an average guy with an average life, who enjoys sex so much that he's willing to face social ostracism to fuck. And if anyone 'respects' him, it's only going to be the average obssessive ���� viewer that does. Most people will think of him as a freak, both physically and socially. There are other things like career, health, looks (face and body wise), women, social standing, etc. Basically, I'm just using this to slightly enhance my life. I'm not making this my life's goal or sole purpose in life. So having an enormous dong isn't tantamount in my mind, and neither does having a 5.5 inch dick CRUSH my confidence as it did with some of you. If I found that Penis Enlargement did *not* work for me, I would be able to walk away with my 5.5 inches and be fine.


The huge complexes the guys here (and all over the world) have about penis size manifests itself in many different and interesting ways, and this forum is no different. :p
 
Originally posted by ItsElectric
Our society is getting fatter, so the NBP measurements will go down. Makes sense, the girth though will stay the same.

-ItsElectric

Was that a personal attack:D
 
jpenis,
I'd like to just make a few points. First off, I agree that having an ever-bigger cock does not increase one's happiness in life. Also, I sure don't want an 11" penis! I'd honestly be quite content with 8.5" or so (which is only about 1.25" more for me).
But it's funny how something depends upon from which angle we're looking. While you might say we obsess, from insecurity, I can just as easily say that you are struggling to convince yourself that it doesn't matter, from insecurity.
But I do think you're way off the mark in some of your comments. First off, Lex Steele is not a social outcast. Far from it. A lot of women would LOVE to screw him. The way you attempt to dismiss him shows how intimidated you feel about his huge stovepipe.
I remember hearing college-educated women at the office speak with almost reverence about John Holmes. Women DO admire a man with a big dick.
I don't mean to sound condescending, but I suspect you're a rather young fellow (I'm 38, BTW). But if you've been around WOMEN enough - as opposed to young gals - you'd know that women DO genuinely love the feel of writhing upon a big love muscle (especially when they're all expanded & wet, and a smaller penis would feel like a Q-Tip inside them).
Looks, grooming, clothes, etc., etc. are all fine. But they don't drive women to shattering orgasms. And when women claim that size doesn't matter, they're either lying to you OR they've never experienced the thrills of a biggie.
For the record:
1) I do NOT want an 11" penis.
2) I KNOW that women love big cocks.
3) I know that I don't change reality just by kidding myself.
Furthermore, I know that my wife enjoys my larger cock far more than when I was more average. I plumped up with about 70% more total mass to my unit, and my wife of 17 years wants sex more than ever now.
 
Does anyone want my take on it:D ???
 
Originally posted by doublelongdaddy
Does anyone want my take on it:D ???
lol
Well, I think we know what YOU think about big cocks!
Any guy going for 13.6" NBP isn't shy about being huge/large... freakish...sHIT! what's the word!
 
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