Lead;575091 said:
You say it like you have hate for the girls that do ����. Its their body, who are you to judge. Also not all girls are created equal, you say like as if every girl does what you mentioned. And what about the guys who does them, you didn't mention them.
Yes we all get old and as life plays out, I sleep with as many women as I can and will do so humbly, of course.
Access to ���� is not made by people who makes them, cause they don't do it for free and still want to get paid. If anyone, blame the pirates and torrent/tube sites.
Pornographers and performers make ���� to make money and have pleasure in their work. No one is forced and every performer acts out willingly from their own comfort zone. There is nothing unhealthy about it. The performers themselves don't crash nor they have to manipulate themselves to being humble, I believe you are taking about who watches ����.
There are tonnes of real world problems out there, ���� effects very few people if any. Millions suffer to poverty, like war torn Syria and mental health. ���� is no drug, and is here to stay.
“You say it like you have hate for girls that do ����” – If I can assume something about Billy I would say it is a love for the humanity instead of a hatred of ���� stars as to why he wrote his post. A hatred of ���� stars would be knowing all the issues and darkness surrounding ����, not caring and having no regard for how ���� stars are forever changed by their life choices.
“Its their body, who are you to judge” – I love how inconsistent people are when they attempt to debate. Leads was so quick to have issue with Billy’s supposed judging that he “judged his judging.” lOl in order to be true to your statement you wouldn’t be able to reply to Billy at all because in doing so you are also judging … you are trying to have your cake and eat it too.
Now nothing is wrong with judging; however, it is modern society that is so quick to say don’t judge knowing it is illogical to even say something like that (case in point is Leads asking Billy why he was judging). Judging is human; however, it has guidelines which I believe Jesus said best which I will now paraphrase and simplify … Judge not unless you want to be judged, for what judgment you use to judge with be used to judge you. Take care of your problems first then you will be fit to help your brother with their problems. (Matt 7:1-5) --- Since I live my life by the Bible I believe the authority of Christ in no way says not to judge but it instead says when you judge don’t be a hypocrite firstly and secondly make sure you own life is in order before you go trying to help someone else (kinda like being on a plane when you are supposed to put on your oxygen mask…. It is said you should put on your own oxygen mask first before you go trying to help someone else because you will end up dying yourself).
“Also not all girls are created equal, you say like as if every girl does what you mentioned. And what about the guys who does them, you didn't mention them.” – You are right not are people are created equal. I believe some people are predisposed to certain things like alcoholism or depression if say it is in their family history. One girl or guy may be able to do ���� for years and retire from it while others may become drug addicts, alcoholics, physically deformed and suicidal. The same is true for ���� watchers … it is well known that a lot of rapists started in viewing ���� and eventually progressed into raping, while on the other hand I assume the majority of ���� viewers never go down that path. I have seen interviews where rapists blame ���� for their issues and some of us will think that is an excuse; however, following the lines of thinking I have mentioned and that Leads has mentioned we can’t be sure ���� didn’t in fact affect them in the way they are claiming (since all people are created differently). Here is one such interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbDZZ_7pLP0
Side note: I have seen numerous stories of male ���� stars with the same problems as female ���� stars.
“Access to ���� is not made by people who makes them, cause they don't do it for free and still want to get paid. If anyone, blame the pirates and torrent/tube sites.” - ? I am not quite sure what is being said here but I will give it a go. If you are trying to say ���� stars have no responsibly for how their product affects society then that is a poor argument. If you produce something then you created its possibly of affecting society in a variety of ways and therefore you are not free from responsibility. If that is the case then wholesale drug dealers (people that sell to lower level street drug dealers in bulk) should have no responsibility when their product ends up in the hands of a child and that child overdoses …. I mean that’s an extreme example but you would have to agree to that if you are being consistent in your argument.
“Pornographers and performers make ���� to make money and have pleasure in their work. No one is forced and every performer acts out willingly from their own comfort zone. There is nothing unhealthy about it.“ – Oversimplified generalization and assumption. I mean what is the measurement you have for the statement “have pleasure in their work.” I mean if just one hates their work, does that falsify your claim? What about half? What about three fourths? That is just one of those thrown out statements which can never be proved unless you interview every ���� star living and those now dead to get an accurate picture of the “pleasure” they received. “No one is forced and every performer acts out willingly from their own comfort zone” …. Again another assumption not based on any facts. Shelley Lubben (an ex-���� star) does a lot of work and interviews with current and ex-���� stars. Do a simple Youtube search and listen to her interviews with ex-���� stars and listen to however they “act[ed] out willingly from their own comfort zone.” If you couldn’t tell my tone that was sarcasm. The term “willingly” …. That is a hard term to use. Once you do ����, once your name gets out, once that is what you are known for and that is how you make a living how much is now “willingly”? Think for a second about yourself. I am sure you have had a job before that you hated; however, you couldn't leave right then and there because it was the only way to make money and if you told your boss you didn’t want to do something then you could have been fired right then. Think for a second about criminals who get locked up for a major crime and when they get out of prison no company will hire them because of their past and some feel no other option than going back to crime. Now think relative to ���� how ���� stars could get trapped in ���� and or do acts on ���� sets because if they don’t you wouldn’t have a way to get money (i.e. fired). Think about what it must be like for an ex-���� star to try to get a professional job and once the background check come up the employers finds out they used to be a ���� star, how likely do you think it is for them to get hired? I may be making an assumption right then but I think people reading my words will understand the message I am trying to convey. “There is nothing unhealthy about it” – this was already refuted refer to the above mentioned.
“There are tonnes of real world problems out there, ���� effects very few people if any. Millions suffer to poverty, like war torn Syria and mental health. ���� is no drug, and is here to stay.” ………………………………… “There are tonnes of real world problems out there…. Millions suffer to poverty, like war torn Syria and mental health.” - I think this statement in itself is pointless. It is like saying because there are murders, police should not respond to simple domestic disturbances. No we are human and we deal with each thing individually and give proper respect to each thing. “���� effects very few people if any” – this is another one of those statements of word fluff which I referred to earlier. It is something you can’t prove and really if you did a search just on
MOS you will find the opposite is true. Do a search on “����” on
MOS and look at the different threads people have about their addiction to ���� in so much that it effected their relationships and when paired with excessive masturbation effected health. Just from simple logic and a simple search one can see ���� does affect people … or do these people not matter to you?
"���� is no drug" .... Some scientists would disagree with you. Do a Youtube search for "A Drug called �����������" and there is mention of how ���� effects the body in a similar way as drugs which then could explain one reason why people get addicted....
In conclusion I must say ���� is a real issue, maybe for the few or for the many and as long as people are affected … it matters.
