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The principle "A is A" is one of the laws of logic, The Law of Identity. It basically states that a thing is - apart from our perception of it, regardless of our perception of it - it just is.
All of my life I have tried to learn, to understand, to grasp reality. I could never understand the person who deliberately sought to distort reality. After all, A is A - and is, perhaps even more so, when we try to make it "A is B."
I don't conceal the reality that I want a longer dick. I feel no need to conceal it. Nor do I feel any primal need to irrationally deny the presence of HUGE DICKS in the world. I don't have to cover my ears, mouth, & eyes and swear that they don't exist - or if they do exist, make excuses such as they did Penis Enlargement, or they have some form of birth defect, etc. That is an example of being terrified of the Law of Identity.
Nor do I hold to a double standard of "demanding proof" from others - even those who've personally seen huge dicks, only to then pontificate about which porn star does Penis Enlargement and which doesn't - without a shred of proof; nay, even against their own statements (i.e., Lex Steele's denial of any Penis Enlargement).
This is the hypocrisy I speak of. And I'm shocked to find it here. As I said, I've always sought "truth" - or at least truth to my ability to understand it. I was exhilarated to find forums which bucked the accepted medical opinion that penis size could not be naturally augmented. I've obviously found out that it can be - as many of you well know.
Yet, in exchange for that, I've run into some of the silliest nonsense about male genitalia that I've ever seen. Let me state for the record:
* I believe the average penis size is between 5.88 - 6.2"
* I believe the average girth is in the high 4's, just under 5"
* I believe that most men, of all races, are around 6"
however, this is where we diverge...
* I have no doubt that 9, 10, even 11 inch penises are NATURALLY found in the world (after all, a penis of about 13.5" NBP has been scientifically measured - it's ridiculous to think that dick size is from 4 to 7, then jumped - one time in history - to 13.5 inches).
* I do not believe that this has anything to do with "birth defects" - that is a completely unsubstantiated theory, by a non-medical professional, which is not endorsed by the medical establisHydromaxent.
* I have no doubt that the largest penises in the world are black - as are most of the really big cocks out there.
* I also have no doubt that the tiniest penises are white/asian.
That Blacks tend to have the largest penises has, in fact, been borne out by surveys (denied by other surveys, also, to be honest), sometimes being up to 1.5" longer than whites, it has been borne out by women I've know (and I'm not talking flaccid, I'm talking about black guys they've fucked), it has been mentioned in books (I think I posted an ISBN here once, or maybe it was in Thunder's) - such as the one where a woman interviewed "people who would know" - i.e., prostitutes, promiscuous homosexuals, and urologists. They all agreed - it ain't no myth. A woman my wife used to work with admitted she slept with over 50 men - but the 3 biggest cocks she ever saw were hanging from the 3 black men she slept with. I've known nurses who've commented on the size of black men they've cared for in hospitals (one was bathing a black man who had a flaccid hang half-way down his thigh, which quickly inflated up his stomach, being as thick as her wrist, or so she claimed). I could go on and on. To deny all this is just silly.
Take a look around you. How many black men in these forums??? Also, how many women (black or white) do you ever hear joking about their black man's small penis? Uh, I've never heard it - but I've heard many white women complaining how small their white lover is. Furthermore, where did this stereotype come from? Yeah, you'll say flaccid size in lockerrooms. And I'll admit, I've seen some 7-8" flaccid hangs in the lockerrooms, but I guess those aren't big cocks because they weren't hard.
Years ago, when I was about 14, Hustler magazine ran a big dick contest & a small dick contest. People suBathmateitted photographs of themselves (in the pre-PC days too, back in '78-'79, no Photoshop apps to morph images)....Gee, guess who won each, respectively? A giant black monster took the big award, while a tiny white peanut claimed the small award - and they showed the shocking photos (which did not include pictures of their face, obviously).
This is the tale of life....A is A. Get over it and move on. Unlike Prickle, I don't feel contempt or self-loathing, not at all.
And, no, I can't "prove" any of this - because I'm sure there are some here who will not accept any "proof" of things they choose not to believe. But I feel for you. And in the spirit of fellow humanity, I'll turn loose this subject for good.
Peace.
 

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Originally posted by WaxN
The principle "A is A" is one of the laws of logic, The Law of Identity. It basically states that a thing is - apart from our perception of it, regardless of our perception of it - it just is.
You proved this to be incorrect yourself WaxN when you made a post on a penis that looked like it was at least 12 x 7 when I went on to show you it was in fact much smaller than that.


Originally posted by WaxN
All of my life I have tried to learn, to understand, to grasp reality. I could never understand the person who deliberately sought to distort reality. After all, A is A - and is, perhaps even more so, when we try to make it "A is B."
If we accepted A as A there would be no place like these forums in existence. The fact that we are able to see simple distortions in what is considered the accepted reality is the same distortions that allow us to make our penis larger. If we accepted A as A there would be no reason for us to Penis Enlargement as "A" states we cannot enlarge our penis.

Originally posted by WaxN
I don't conceal the reality that I want a longer dick. I feel no need to conceal it. Nor do I feel any primal need to irrationally deny the presence of HUGE DICKS in the world. I don't have to cover my ears, mouth, & eyes and swear that they don't exist - or if they do exist, make excuses such as they did Penis Enlargement, or they have some form of birth defect, etc. That is an example of being terrified of the Law of Identity.
These comments are in direct relation to my study and I find them very bias. I have always agreed that the naturally hung exist my only interjection to this is that the accepted studies on average size are further skewed due to medical and Penis Enlargement factors not to mention self measurement. I am not saying 25" natural cocks do not exist but I am saying anything above 7" is EXTREMELY rare.


Originally posted by WaxN
Nor do I hold to a double standard of "demanding proof" from others - even those who've personally seen huge dicks, only to then pontificate about which porn star does Penis Enlargement and which doesn't - without a shred of proof; nay, even against their own statements (i.e., Lex Steele's denial of any Penis Enlargement).
Maybe you do not need proof but I do...Why have I become so synical? I have been dragged through the coals with people questioning my penis size and demanding proof.

Originally posted by WaxN
This is the hypocrisy I speak of. And I'm shocked to find it here. As I said, I've always sought "truth" - or at least truth to my ability to understand it. I was exhilarated to find forums which bucked the accepted medical opinion that penis size could not be naturally augmented. I've obviously found out that it can be - as many of you well know.
This statement is hypocrisy in itself. You state you have always sought the truth but then go on to call the very forum that questions "the truth"(ie: average penis size, racial myths, pornography illusions, etc.) as being hypocritical. As I stated earlier if A was A than you would not be wasting your time with Penis Enlargement.

Originally posted by WaxN
Yet, in exchange for that, I've run into some of the silliest nonsense about male genitalia that I've ever seen. Let me state for the record:
* I believe the average penis size is between 5.88 - 6.2"
* I believe the average girth is in the high 4's, just under 5"
* I believe that most men, of all races, are around 6"
however, this is where we diverge...
* I have no doubt that 9, 10, even 11 inch penises are NATURALLY found in the world (after all, a penis of about 13.5" NBP has been scientifically measured - it's ridiculous to think that dick size is from 4 to 7, then jumped - one time in history - to 13.5 inches).
I agree with this. I also know I am walking around with an 11" penis that I created.

Originally posted by WaxN
* I do not believe that this has anything to do with "birth defects" - that is a completely unsubstantiated theory, by a non-medical professional, which is not endorsed by the medical establisHydromaxent.
WaxN there is a disease called Sickle Cell Anemia that accounts for penile defect. Males with sickle cell anemia may experience a condition called priapism (prolonged erections). Due to blood vessel blockage by sickle cells, blood is trapped in the tissue of the penis creating penile deformities in size.

Originally posted by WaxN
* I have no doubt that the largest penises in the world are black - as are most of the really big cocks out there.
Is this opinion or is it endorsed by the medical establisHydromaxent?

Originally posted by WaxN
* I also have no doubt that the tiniest penises are white/asian.
Is this opinion or is it endorsed by the medical establisHydromaxent?


Originally posted by WaxN
Blacks tend to have the largest penises has, in fact, been borne out by surveys (denied by other surveys, also, to be honest), sometimes being up to 1.5" longer than whites
At 1.5" longer then whites this still falls into the scale of average I proposed in my study. Where do Latin people fall into this? I would like to see some of these studies and their methodology.

Originally posted by WaxN
it has been borne out by women I've know (and I'm not talking flaccid, I'm talking about black guys they've fucked), it has been mentioned in books (I think I posted an ISBN here once, or maybe it was in Thunder's) - such as the one where a woman interviewed "people who would know" - i.e., prostitutes, promiscuous homosexuals, and urologists. They all agreed - it ain't no myth. A woman my wife used to work with admitted she slept with over 50 men - but the 3 biggest cocks she ever saw were hanging from the 3 black men she slept with. I've known nurses who've commented on the size of black men they've cared for in hospitals (one was bathing a black man who had a flaccid hang half-way down his thigh, which quickly inflated up his stomach, being as thick as her wrist, or so she claimed). I could go on and on. To deny all this is just silly.
This is word of mouth. The problem with that is not that you are misrepresenting the truth but perhaps they are. We may never know and this is why this part of the debate will never be over.

Originally posted by WaxN
Take a look around you. How many black men in these forums??? Also, how many women (black or white) do you ever hear joking about their black man's small penis? Uh, I've never heard it - but I've heard many white women complaining how small their white lover is. Furthermore, where did this stereotype come from? Yeah, you'll say flaccid size in lockerrooms. And I'll admit, I've seen some 7-8" flaccid hangs in the lockerrooms, but I guess those aren't big cocks because they weren't hard.
The majority of the men I work with on a personal basis through my site are in fact black. WaxN although I am white I grew up in inner city Washington DC. I went to an all black school and most of my friends growing up were black. I spend most of my free time on an all mostly black forum. The penis issue is the same there too. Women make complaints and jokes and men yearn for larger size.

This is a link to a very prominent NY surgeon who specializes in phalloplasty. You will notice out of all of the patient photos at least half are from black patients. I have written him a letter asking for some solid demographics on patients based on race. I doubt I will get a response: http://www.new-york-phalloplasty.com/bnapics.html

Originally posted by WaxN
Years ago, when I was about 14, Hustler magazine ran a big dick contest & a small dick contest. People suBathmateitted photographs of themselves (in the pre-PC days too, back in '78-'79, no Photoshop apps to morph images)....Gee, guess who won each, respectively? A giant black monster took the big award, while a tiny white peanut claimed the small award - and they showed the shocking photos (which did not include pictures of their face, obviously).
Well that blows all the hard work I have done in my study. If I would have seen this issue of Hustler it would have saved me allot of time.

Originally posted by WaxN
This is the tale of life....A is A. Get over it and move on. Unlike Prickle, I don't feel contempt or self-loathing, not at all.
And, no, I can't "prove" any of this - because I'm sure there are some here who will not accept any "proof" of things they choose not to believe. But I feel for you. And in the spirit of fellow humanity, I'll turn loose this subject for good.
Peace.
I will stick with "A" can possibly be "B" theory...after all with all the men changing their penis size in this forum alone we are living proof that B's really happen.
 
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My brothers ex had a 5 year old son that had atleast a 7 inch dick. He was sleeping on the couch and had a woody. His mother changed him into his PJs and MAN O MAN I was like...What the fuck! The kid LOOKED bigger than me! I have never seen anything like that before in my life. How big will he get when he hits puberty? 10-11-13 maybe???????

Natural huge cocks do exist but I'm willing to bet that they are as rare as a 20 foot shark (there has been a 21 foot shark caught off the coast of Cuba). So rare that they are more a myth than reality.

Edit: I actually said "GAWD DAMN!" when she pulled his shorts off!!!! Oh, and everyone I spoke about is white.
 
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There was a white kid that lived down the block from me that at 11 his dick was full grown and his parents had to give him medicine to slow it's growth down the kid could also grow a mustache. His father told me what it's called but I forget. The thing is if this kid was black and maybe living in or around poverty he would have never been treated and would have ended up with a donkey sized dick.


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Great post indeed!!

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Originally posted by Dino9x7
There was a white kid that lived down the block from me that at 11 his dick was full grown and his parents had to give him medicine to slow it's growth down the kid could also grow a mustache. His father told me what it's called but I forget. The thing is if this kid was black and maybe living in or around poverty he would have never been treated and would have ended up with a donkey sized dick.
Dino
Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia. Kids sometimes have 11 inch dicks by age 11.

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*runs off to research Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia*

hoping it's contagious:p

Does it show some kind of obsession that I know that???? Naaaahhhhh

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I believe that you, WaxN, need to come to your own conclusions and stop believing what other people tell you. You my friend, are guillable.

The proof is in the pudding, you just have to go out there and find it. No one on this board ever claimed that naturally large penises do not exist. But some, including me, claim that they are a rarity.
 

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Originally posted by doublelongdaddy
I have written him a letter asking for some solid demographics on patients based on race. I doubt I will get a response: http://www.new-york-phalloplasty.com/bnapics.html
this is, by far, the WORST link i have ever seen.... those dicks are just plan out scary looking... i'm just glad they didnt have a "insertion of rusty nails into glans" section |(
 
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God, after seeing those frankenstine penises, I think I'll have nightmares. I'll wake up and see a stiched up dick, the it will fall off and i will wake up screaming, "Sonuvabitch!!!!"
 
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8 isn't enough


Thanks bro, and no DLD you can't get some. But dam if you could bottle Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia and turn it on and off you would be a very rich well hung man indeed.


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Hi lads, just read this thread, i think i made a post on another that pretty much mulls over this, it's kinda long but i found it age me some perspective after arranging me thoughts and typing it out, maybe reading it will do the same for others? here she is . . .


nobody seems to deny that there are some naturally big dicks out there, it seems that the more trenchant question is how many, and is this number statistically so likely that a lot of chicks are going to have slept with guys with way bigger dicks than me?

based on all the things i've read on here in the last few days, i would be highly skeptical of there being more than say 0.5% share of nine inch penises in any group of 100 males, and i'll say of mixed ethnicity but i feel that would hold true for any combination, nearly all black included, but i would rather this exclude that variable for the moment. i feel 0.5% is actually very generous and that in reality the percentage is probably lower.

at 0.5% there should be one guy in a group of 200 with a 9+ unit. first of all, in all my life, whether it be flacid observation in locker rooms or viewing pornography, where you would think this size would be fairly common, it is not. i have seen one in real life that i thought may be near that size, but i was quite young and probably had some of the shock effect described by DLD as i was not fully mature at the time. even in porno a full-fledged 9 incher is hard to come by, the very top guys in the "big dick" market boast a size somewhere around there.

now, if we have about 1 out of every 200 hundred guys running around with that kind of size, that means that in a city of say 100,000 . . . there should be about 500 dudes with that kind of size. even at this generous estimate, that's not a whole lot of guys, but it doesn't seem likely, because when you blow the numbers up to national or sometimes even regional proportions you're talking about hundreds of thousands of guys with a size potentially comparable to john holmes, and i think most would agree that a lot of these guys aren't just walking around. the very fact that the john holmes' and lexington steeles' of the world are mentionable is due to their extreme rarity.

that being said, all these women that have stories of guys with 9+, which seems to be the magic number for both men and women to razzle and dazzle with, i don't buy it. first off, the argument that women can't measure can go on all day (i don't think most can measure accurately personally), so best just to forget about it. now, say a girl is very sexually active, has sex with 20 guys by the age of 20. at 0.5% dudes having 9+ inches the odds that she encountered one are 0.1%, or one in a thousand! in our city of 100,000, theres 49,500 penises smaller than that walking around. when you play around with this number the odds against "the world full of big dicks" theory unravels even further. even if she sleeps with 60 guys, we're down to what, about like one in 300 or something, pretty much less than that. dude, pay me a million dollars to do something dangerous where there is only a 1 in 300 chance that i will die and you'd better believe i'll be all over that a dozen times or so before i even break a sweat.

it's a bell curve, plain and simple. the big guys, they're out there, all told over the US there has to be maybe hundreds of thousands of hugely hung guys. but there are millions on top of millions of far more normal guys. all these women that claim to have had penises that size are making it up or sorely mistaken, even of they're a woman who seeks that kind of thing out, the percentage that would actually be successful, let alone find more than one should be very very small. and man, if she's only been with five guys or less, she's about as likely to have a third arm or something. i would say the same goes proportionally for eight inches and such.

throw 8+ inches in the mix at an exceedingly generous mix of 2%. it's still a very small number of guys realative to the sample even a very promiscous women might sleep with. as DLD has quoted several times, only one survey has been conducted where there is no chance to cheat, and it scores pretty much right down the middle in the six inch range. i'd say common sense says to take that as accurate, if she swears up and down that she's had a 9 incher, you might want to hang onto that chick because she may win the lottery as well, but watch out during lightning storms. obviously she is prone to freak happenings.

*if you are dating a girl that says she has, and you disagree with what i've just said, please don't come after me, i'm not calling your girl a liar for kicks, i'm just calling it how i see it. there are other factors as well, ideas about bigger guys getting laid more and such, but the with the model i made up even some substansive factors don't eliminate the indication that it is extremely rare for any woman to experience a penis that size.


*** so that was my post, the only thing i would like to add is that pretty much all studies, seriously flawed self-reportage or some of the better ones like lifestyle's show a bell curve. for those of you not familiar with those, it's a distribution graph that looks like a big bell, meaning that the vast majority of all the numbers represented in it tend to fall in the middle of the field, with steep drop-offs once you move towards the edges. the argument really seems to be about how steep these drop-offs are, and i'm going to go ahead and say, ahem, pretty fucking steep.
 
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Considering my university studies in logic I would say that WaxN's statement of the Law of Identity didn't really have much bearing on the post that followed. Tautology and observation has no relation. It is true that a big dick is a big dick but from that doesn't follow that pictures in an old issue of Hustler and female's perception of size prove that blacks have larger dicks. That was nothing but a weak post.
 

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Hello Sluts ;)
Well I seen alot of Sex programs where they tell you about the Nature of sex and the things around it.
One show I saw had Kids with adult sized dicks.

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My brothers ex had a 5 year old son that had atleast a 7 inch dick. He was sleeping on the couch and had a woody. His mother changed him into his PJs and MAN O MAN I was like...What the fuck! The kid LOOKED bigger than me! I have never seen anything like that before in my life. How big will he get when he hits puberty? 10-11-13 maybe???????

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^^^^ All that is..is the kid has reached puberty VERY early indeed.
He will not continue to grow and grow down their.
His penile system has grown fully.
He has full pubic hair and sperm can be shot.

Its VERY rare and is just a freak of nature.
His dick SEEMS 7 inches long, but it might not be? smaller people it would look bigger on um anyway.
 
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very good post in the sense that it makes us question ourselves. Penis Enlargement is not simply a physical concept.We can pull and squeeze all we want.But one must believe it works in order to succeed.If you believe you will research data,techniques,etc...you will apply them and believe an outcome will occur...and when you mix the mental aspect with the physical you have a higher chance of success...good luck my friends and keep up the Penis Enlargement.
 

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