New Hercules Arrived Today: Progress Thread

[Bolden]

Hello all,

This is my first post here although I've been lurking for a while. Became interested in PE after learning about it through Foreskin Restoration and I thought I would do both concurrently. I have been stretching and jelqing daily since mid-October 2016.

Some of the members of my foreskin restoring forum were using bathmates, which was intriguing enough to me to want to look into it.

So I ordered a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hercules[/words] and it arrived today. Of course I thought I would wait and do some more reading and learning before using it the first time, but I was excited enough that I had to hop in the shower to try it out.

I was conservative in my first usage, mostly just trying to sort out the mechanics. I forgot to trim before hand so I will probably do that tomorrow before my next session.

First thing I noticed was how amazing a feeling it is to submerge my penis in the warm water. That feeling is pretty much worth it if nothing else!

I pumped only once and felt the vacuum a bit and so just practiced the mechanics of losing vacuum/refilling [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]/applying suction etc. rinse and repeat.

Really enjoyable easy process and I am looking forward to adding it to my daily routine. My overall goals value safety and health over fast gains, and so my moderate/conservative beginnings with the pump reflect that.

All the best and thanks for all the great knowledge on here.

Bolden

 

[Bolden]

Since I got the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] I've done a couple more days of sessions this weekend. I am slowly and cautiously exploring how much pressure seems safe to me at this time.

I'm really enjoying reading the forums and seeing other men's success. It is encouraging!

 

[DLD]

I am so happy that you are taking to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] so well! A couple of tips that will help with vacuum. Trim pubic hair down to about 1/4" or less, use a smear of vaseline around the seal and you could always add a wine-vac. Other than that just keep learning and taking your time.

 

[Bolden]

Thanks DLD!

Is it appropriate for me to use this thread as a continuing diary/log?

Cheers

 

[DLD]

Thanks DLD!

Is it appropriate for me to use this thread as a continuing diary/log?

Cheers

No, I will move it to the progress section for you.

 

[pefan]

Hi Bolden,

Happy that you like your Bathmats, it is a fantastic product. Don't be afraid to pump, it's perfectly save and you cannot get too high of a pressure/vacuum, even if you pump it to the max. The vacuvinmod is another story though...

Tip: the 5x5x3 is amazing, but just start slowly with 5x5x2 (5min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], 5min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]: repeat 2 to 3 times).

Also: warming up the penis (fill a sock with rice or something, put it in the microwave until it is warm, not hot) and stretching it before getting into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] really helps expansion. Without warming up the pressure just feels a little awkward and gains aren't as good.

 

[Bolden]

Thanks PEFan,

I appreciate the advice!

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

going in with the highest possible EQ is also beneficial, (I also Kegel and RK while pumped and erect). just use your imagination, throw in some [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] Hardcore Stretches and before you know it, you'll be graduating to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words]

 

[Bolden]

My measurements are average, how long does it normally take to max out a size with everyday dedicated PE?

I realize this is a question with many variables, but just looking to see other's experiences.

 

[DLD]

My measurements are average, how long does it normally take to max out a size with everyday dedicated PE?

I realize this is a question with many variables, but just looking to see other's experiences.

If you are referring to how quickly men go from a smaller [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] to a bigger one I would say this happens over a 6 month period. If you are simply asking how fast gains can be made, in my own experience I made a 2" gain in length over 6 months and .5" gain in girth in the same time. You are right, everyone is different and the variables can be anywhere from strength used to tool usage. Motivation and inspiration are also factors that will help you gain faster.

 

[Bolden]

Thanks DLD,
For now I will focusing on maxing out my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hercules[/words] and see where I can go from there!
Of the last week I think I have pumped every day but one.
I am kegeling every day.

 

[DLD]

Thanks DLD,
For now I will focusing on maxing out my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hercules[/words] and see where I can go from there!
Of the last week I think I have pumped every day but one.
I am kegeling every day.

Maxing out a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words] is a great thing and you will be at a huge size.

 

[Bolden]

Had another good session today, and I am starting to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] erect instead of flaccid. I am starting to get used to the different sensations of pumping.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

Had another good session today, and I am starting to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] erect instead of flaccid. I am starting to get used to the different sensations of pumping.

There's definitely a learning-curve w/all PE equipment, but especially The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]. Once you have all the rudimentary moves down-pat, start getting creative...hardcore stretches, behind-the-cheeks stretches, turning the cylinder upside-down, dynamic pumping, etc.etc.

Glad to hear you've taken to it so quickly...I really enjoy every session and I've been doing this almost every day for 2 1/2 years

 

[DLD]

There's definitely a learning-curve w/all PE equipment, but especially The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]. Once you have all the rudimentary moves down-pat, start getting creative...hardcore stretches, behind-the-cheeks stretches, turning the cylinder upside-down, dynamic pumping, etc.etc.

Glad to hear you've taken to it so quickly...I really enjoy every session and I've been doing this almost every day for 2 1/2 years

Agree!

 

[Bolden]

This morning's session I mixed it up a bit by doing my stretching before my shower. I stand in the tub without the water running so I don't waste as much. I realized that this is something I can do later in the day too without having a shower.

Had a little bit of discomfort on the front of my pubic bone where the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] presses in to get suction. It seems I have to press fairly hard to get it to pump. Are there any nerves here that can be damaged through the pushing motion?

Still not getting a lot of expansion but I do really like the plump look after my cock comes out of the pump.

 

[joaobigdick]

I have the same doubt as you, Bolden: If there are any nerves near the base/pubic bone that can be damaged through the pushing motion. I got a little bit of pain durring my sessions, too. There was a time that i had to stop for a week because the pain was unbearable, and it was hurting even when i'm not doing anything. Maybe it's just a question of strengthening.

 

[Bolden]

Hi Joao,
That doesn't sound good! In your experience did the pain radiate anywhere else, or did you experience any numbness in the penis? My pain was located only in the pubic bone, but looking for these signs could indicate whether it can affect the penis or the pelvis more. I haven't seen many posts of this nature on the forum so I don't know if it's a common problem.

The front of my pubic bone area was a bit sensitive yesterday after the session and somewhat uncomfortable. It is now fine this morning but I have not done todays session. What it felt like was a bruised muscle or something.
Maybe there is a modification that can be made to avoid excessive pushing pressure on the pubic bone. Today I will experiment with using slow sustained pressure on each pump and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,

 

[Bolden]

Experimented today with a new trick (to me) for pumping the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]. What I did was, each time I pumped, I put my thumb just slightly under the northern edge of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words]. This means that the pressure was not focused on my pubic bone, but on the thumb which could apply equal counter pressure. The trick is to put the thumb underneath the edge only so far as to not lose suction. It seems to work well and I have not experienced more pain in the front of my pubis. I will continue with this method and add a vacu vin once I feel I'm ready for more intense sessions.

I approximated 553 in my session today. The timing isn't exact but the sequence is.

 

[joaobigdick]

Hi Joao,
That doesn't sound good! In your experience did the pain radiate anywhere else, or did you experience any numbness in the penis? My pain was located only in the pubic bone, but looking for these signs could indicate whether it can affect the penis or the pelvis more. I haven't seen many posts of this nature on the forum so I don't know if it's a common problem.

The front of my pubic bone area was a bit sensitive yesterday after the session and somewhat uncomfortable. It is now fine this morning but I have not done todays session. What it felt like was a bruised muscle or something.
Maybe there is a modification that can be made to avoid excessive pushing pressure on the pubic bone. Today I will experiment with using slow sustained pressure on each pump and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,

Sorry for not replying sooner, my friend! No numbness at all in my penis, only pain right in the base of my penis and pubic bone. When I get that pain, I rest for 2 days and back to training.

 

[DLD]

Sorry for not replying sooner, my friend! No numbness at all in my penis, only pain right in the base of my penis and pubic bone. When I get that pain, I rest for 2 days and back to training.

Pain at the base should be expected especially for new Brothers and those who have added intensity to their stretching work. This is 'good' soreness.

 

[Bolden]

I had a thought today during my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session that I'd like to share here.

Essentially it was to try to remember to enjoy every step of this process. If the penis grows a tiny amount each day adding up to a larger penis down the road, then I can enjoy the fact that everyday single day I have a larger penis than the day before. In other words, if I reserve my contentment for some future time when I have the penis I want, I'll miss all the joy I could be experiencing in the here and now.

 

[DLD]

It is a brilliant way to manifest that which you desire. Understanding that with every day a small increment will happen, as unnoticed as it may be, is still a slight gain. Over a year you could actually average daily growth. It is not something that would be measurable daily but it certainly will aid in inspiration and motivation!

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

I had a thought today during my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session that I'd like to share here.

Essentially it was to try to remember to enjoy every step of this process. If the penis grows a tiny amount each day adding up to a larger penis down the road, then I can enjoy the fact that everyday single day I have a larger penis than the day before. In other words, if I reserve my contentment for some future time when I have the penis I want, I'll miss all the joy I could be experiencing in the here and now.

I try to employ that philosophy in every step/stage/part of my life...well said, Bolden!!

 

[DLD]

I try to employ that philosophy in every step/stage/part of my life...well said, Bolden!!

And in the help you give....

 

[Bolden]

Another thought came to me as I was doing my session this morning.

At every stage of this process, there are thousands of men who I'm sure would be more than happy with the penis that I have right now. This is a reminder to myself to have gratitude and appreciate life at every step. It is also helps me to make it a careful, loving process, instead of a stressful demanding one. I don't want to be motivated by urgency or impatience. The gains will come in time with dedication. And if for whatever reason they don't, I still have an awesome cock that I enjoy to the fullest, and that I appreciate.

I did my session along to a favourite album. I did 5x5x3 to the songs on the album, switching when the tracks changed. The times are approximately correct.

I also continue to develop my pumping technique using the counter pressure from my other hand thumb to press the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] into. I also try to pump slowly, and hold the pump as close to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] as I can with my pumping hand. Both these measures are to insure a controlled pump, with little pressure into the pubis itself.

Thanks for the great responses, they are much appreciated!

 

[DLD]

This is a reminder to myself to have gratitude and appreciate life at every step. It is also helps me to make it a careful, loving process, instead of a stressful demanding one. I don't want to be motivated by urgency or impatience.

Thankfulness is so important to receiving continuous grace. Charity is much like this, as it is the flip side of the thankfulness coin and really brings altruism to it's highest level of love. We can only be motivated to good by good and the same goes for bad. It is impossible to serve two masters.

 

[Bolden]

Received my Vacu Vin from amazon in the mail today. Excited to try it out in tomorrow morning's pumping session. Will be cautious and aware of the increase in pressure.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

Received my Vacu Vin from amazon in the mail today. Excited to try it out in tomorrow morning's pumping session. Will be cautious and aware of the increase in pressure.

it'll blow-up your mind as well as your d!ck...good plan on being cautious

 

[Bolden]

Tried out my new wine vac mod this morning. I got a plain black one that I believe is the original VacuVin design.

The way I make a seal at the top is with a very basic jelly donut cock ring. It seems to work well as a seal and it is easy to take on and off.

I did my usual 2.5min jelq/ 3.5min pump x3 with warmup and stretching before hand. The VacuVin really makes it easy to add extra vaccumm to the tube. Pulling the VV just a half inch pulls my cock forward in the tube, with no discomfort at the bass or in my pubis. I will continue cautiously for a while as my penis gets used to this new power.

I'm really looking forward to this being part of my daily routine.

Thanks for any feedback/advice.

 

[DLD]

Tried out my new wine vac mod this morning. I got a plain black one that I believe is the original VacuVin design.

The way I make a seal at the top is with a very basic jelly donut cock ring. It seems to work well as a seal and it is easy to take on and off.

I did my usual 2.5min jelq/ 3.5min pump x3 with warmup and stretching before hand. The VacuVin really makes it easy to add extra vaccumm to the tube. Pulling the VV just a half inch pulls my cock forward in the tube, with no discomfort at the bass or in my pubis. I will continue cautiously for a while as my penis gets used to this new power.

I'm really looking forward to this being part of my daily routine.

Thanks for any feedback/advice.

Good work my Brother, I am proud of you! It makes all the difference in the world, every Brother who has a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] or is getting a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] should get a wine-vac. It is under $10 and it will increase vacuum bigly!

 

[Bolden]

I have been continuing to work on my sessions daily. Sometimes I miss a day depending on my schedule. I have been working up to 5x5x3 by using a music playlist on my phone. So at the moment it's more like 3:50, 4:00 x 3.

I am aiming for 8 inches. Is this a realistic goal with stretching/jelqing/bathmate? Has anyone on the forums achieved this with only these exercises and tools? Getting to 8 inches length will mean adding around 3inches to my erect length.

 

[DLD]

I have been continuing to work on my sessions daily. Sometimes I miss a day depending on my schedule. I have been working up to 5x5x3 by using a music playlist on my phone. So at the moment it's more like 3:50, 4:00 x 3.

I am aiming for 8 inches. Is this a realistic goal with stretching/jelqing/bathmate? Has anyone on the forums achieved this with only these exercises and tools? Getting to 8 inches length will mean adding around 3inches to my erect length.

What does you stretching session look like?

 

[Bolden]

All angles if I'm thorough, and hold for 15 seconds.

 

[Bolden]

I seem to be starting out at the beginning of each [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] session at 5" on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] Ruler. This is if I'm erect. By the end of 5x5x3 I'm able to comfortably reach 6".

Pushed my limit a little bit today with the wine vac and got some pain and immediately backed off. It's helpful to know my limits.

Still making my primary aim to enjoy the process!

 

[DLD]

All angles if I'm thorough, and hold for 15 seconds.

Good. That is what I wanted to hear. Three inches is a big goal but completely doable, as I did it myself. The current routine will get you there but how long is the question. My initial 2 inches came very quickly (6 months) but I also trained like a madman. I did the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] 2-3 times everyday. When the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] came out I used that and as the rest of the equipment came out I got those also. I think that if you want to speed the 3" goal to a timely manner I would add in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words]. This will increase length gains much faster.

DLD

 

[Bolden]

Thanks DLD, I appreciate the advice.

In your experience, how long did it take to see your pre pump size increase to the initial maximum pump? Meaning, if I'm 5" going in, and can pump to 6", how long until I am 6" on the regular?

I recognize that this is a difficult question to answer, but maybe there are observable patterns you've noticed over time on the forums.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

I did my session along to a favourite album. I did 5x5x3 to the songs on the album, switching when the tracks changed. The times are approximately correct. QUOTE]

Only fossils like us know what an LP is and what it does, lol

 

[DLD]

I did my session along to a favourite album. I did 5x5x3 to the songs on the album, switching when the tracks changed. The times are approximately correct. QUOTE]

Only fossils like us know what an LP is and what it does, lol

I still remember 78's!

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

My 1st 45 that I bought w/my own money from mowing lawns was 'Spill the Wine' by Eric Burden and War...must have been when I was 6 or 7, back in '68/'69

 

[Bolden]

In my session today I was puzzling with a question. Reminds me a little bit of math class, but it could be interesting to explore.

Let's assume that when we begin PE we start with 100% penis size by volume. Let's say we are consistent and have a session every single day that yields exactly the same amount of penis size growth by volume. Let's imagine our growth each day is 0.1% of initial penis volume.

So, after day 1 our penis size is now 100.1% of initial penis volume. Day two yields another .1% getting us to 100.2% initial penis volume. By day ten we are now bigger than we started by 1% (remembering that our values are just assumptions).

What is interesting to me is that in the assumptions of this model, even though our growth is constant day to day, we are getting diminishing returns in our volume growth as compared to our initial penis size. So, even though we are growing at a constant rate, we might imagine that our growth is slowing or stagnating, even though it actually stays exactly the same.

Imagine we work for 1000 days, and reach a penis size by volume of 200% of initial penis size. The next day we do our session and once it is done we have gained .1% of initial penis volume. However, we have only gained .05% of Day 1000 penis size by volume.

In a different imagined model, penis size by volume gains are 0.1% of every days new size. Meaning that if I gain 0.1% of that days penis size my penis is now .1% bigger. However, the next day I call my penis size 100% and gain another 0.1% of that total. This means my volume gains are increasing each day along with the growth of my penis day to day.

The biology of PE is not fully understood at a lot of levels. We have mostly anecdotal reports of men permanently increasing the size of the erect and flaccid penis over time. I would be interested to have a better understanding of what the processes are that are occurring when we increase the size of our penis.

I have built a slightly better understanding for myself of the processes occurring in foreskin restoration. We put tension on the skin (analogous to a growing body, a pregnant belly, a post-mastectomy reconstructive balloon for growing breasts, a person gaining lots of weight) and this triggers the cells to divide. One mother cell becomes two daughter cells, effectively doubling the skin on the cellular level. To grow a new foreskin we must put consistent tension on the skin over a period of time to see that cellular growth visible on the gross level.

In PE, I assume we are also trying to grow the penis tissues on a gross level, by triggering division of the cells in all the tissues of the penis. This, anyway, is my assumption. Alternatives are increasing the capacity for blood to fill the penis, and also creating other new tissues like scarring.

In my foreskin restoration efforts, I make certain assumptions about the process. I assume that a certain amount of cells in the foreskin are available at any one time to divide, and they must have tension on them to a certain degree and a certain time in order to be encouraged to divide into new cells. I assume that not all cells are always available to be triggered, and that new cells have a window in which they cannot yet be triggered for division. This means, that we are not always growing new cells from the whole foreskin, but only certain cells within it at any given time. Over a period however, say, a month, we can trigger all cells as they are available to be triggered. This means consistent applications of the techniques of restoration.

In PE, I assume some of the same variables apply. How many cells are available within the penis tissues at any given time, and are ready to divide into new cells (growth). What types of tension are needed on those cells, and for how long, in order to encourage them to divide?

In foreskin restoration, we often see that men who start with looser circumcisions restore faster than those with very tight circumcisions. I believe this is because they have fewer cells to start with, and therefore growth takes longer, as fewer cells are being triggered by the techniques each session. Similarly, some notice that as they get closer to the end of their restorations, the rate of growth appears to increase at the gross level.

So, in our two models of growth at the beginning of the post, one where gains occur as a certain constant percentage of the initial volume, and the other model wherein gains occur as a certain constant percentage of the new daily volume, which one is closest to reality? Are all cells in the penis tissues available at all times to divide? Are some cells always available to divide (growth)? Are all cells only sometimes available to divide? How do we maximize the targeting of cells for division? Are certain applications of tension more effective at triggering the most amount of cells in every session? Are long periods of tension needed to maximize cell division? Are shorter sessions effective at targeting all possible cells in a given time frame/window? Do different types of penile tissue respond differently to different tensions?

If we want to maximize the growth of our penis, we want to be triggering as many cells as we can, as often as they are available to divide. Meaning, the closer we can get to the second model of growth the faster we will grow. Or in other words, the bigger we will become in a smaller amount of time.

Also, as interesting as these questions are to me, I have seen some growth from my routine already. Meaning that, as much as we try to optimize our sessions and routines, if we see growth over time we can know it is working. In this case persistence is key. Many thousands of men have grown their penis (or foreskin) without knowing anything at all about cells or cell division.

I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this!

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

yep I just can imagine a cell breaking into 2 and expanding the tissues giving us penile growth.But i wouldnt say im able to understand how it works fully thanks for your explanation tough.(il read it again later)

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

Hey Bolden,
Well composed and thought-provoking post. I'm, by no means, a molecular biologist but I can understand your arguments at a practical level. Using my own experience as one example, I've noticed by 'changing-up' my routine I'm able to reach a higher goal. This led me to believe that my 'cells' want to remain 'static' and resist change/growth...almost like my penis was comfortable in its previous state and would prefer to stay that way. Once I impart different/more intense forces against it, that's where I can see change. I know consistency has been my best weapon against inertia, but I know for a fact that I do not grow in anything close to a linear fashion...more 'fits and starts', if you will.
This is very intriguing

 

[DLD]

Just like we become complacent and bored with things in life so does our penis. In life growth is all about experiencing new and more challenging changes and the same applies to PE. A routine, exercise, tool can reach a plateau through becoming accustomed to it. I have always written routines to give much flexibility in how they are done and how to change them up and add intensity. Growth will continue if intensity is always increased, changing up exercises when they become mundane, finding better ways to use the tools you have, create super-sets of complimentary exercise, and many other changes. Motivation comes into play also as if we continue to do the same things over and over the fun factor is reduced and we can go from a burning zeal to a dim spark and if this spark is not fed fuel it will quickly burn out. Keep things fun and motivated by remaining involved with the Brotherhood. Those who are here daily reap the rewards of this in many ways I am sure the Brothers will explain. We can get very deep into the science of it all or we can keep it simple and fun, I prefer the latter.

 

[Bolden]

Thanks for the replies!

The science definitely is not necessary as so many men have proven with the evidence of a larger penis. However, trying to understand the science of foreskin restoration has led to more efficient and optimum methods, leading to greater success.

In FR as well as PE, it is helpful to remind oneself that both an adult foreskin and adult penis take somewhere in the range of 16-20 years to fully grow and mature to the adult stage. This puts things in perspective in terms of how fast we actually grow new tissues with our artificial methods. The techniques we employ, are they similar to the environmental or inherent factors that stimulate growth of the body as a child, or are they different and just happen to have a similar effect? What are the forces acting on the young body that signals it to grow? Gravity acts on the penis and testicles, but not much. Internal pressure of the body could encourage growth. And finally the nature of a body to inherently grow to its genetically predisposed size (which I don't understand the mechanisms of).

In youth, we go through what are described as "growth spurts". I have some stretch marks on the sides of my torso where I assume I grew faster than my skin could keep up with. Maybe this lines up with what Big Schwanz is noticing in his own progress that it happens in fits and starts. Maybe the body goes through cycles of growth, and not steady growth at all times.

My reason to investigate in this area is to try to discover what I call in foreskin restoration "optimum tension". This is the amount of tension which will trigger the most amount of cells in a short amount of time. This method can then be applied daily to trigger all newly available cells. I would like to discover in PE what the most optimum tension is, that can be incorporated most easily into my life, for me. Applicability is crucial to me because if I fall off for too long then no growth at all will occur.

As I understand it, in pumping we are creating a negative space with the vacuum. This forces the penis to enlarge to fill the space. What this means internally is that each cell of the penis is being pulled slightly away from the cell next to it. If this application of tension is sustained for the required time interval, these cells will divide, and create more tissue of the same type. So, in order to get the most out of each session, it would be helpful to know: How much negative pressure is needed to pull one cell away from another and encourage division? How long does this negative pressure need to be sustained to trigger the process of division?

Seeing gains from having changed up our routine might have something to do with accessing more of the tissues of the penis. If we only to jelqing on the last half of the penis we may develop a baseball bat. Similarly if we jelq only at the very base, we risk developing a waffle cone. So, it would also be helpful to know: what are the methods that hit the most possible tissue in the penis in the most optimum/effective way (as often as is needed)?

What do you think?

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

Again, I only have personal experience to base my 'theories' and a logical mind so as far as force/duration calculations, I'd have to 'kick that one upstairs' to someone more qualified than I. What seems to make sense is the fact that I need to keep upping the intensity in order to see any growth. I use The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] sticker as a monument and when I 1st began this PE journey, my personal best was a shade over the 7" mark (come to find-out, the sticker is optimistic by about .375" so I was really 6.625"+), now I'm consistently hitting 8.75"+ which lands me in the 8.375". This is a 1.75" increase over 2.5 years of very intense, daily exercise...always striving for a bit more each session.
Bottom line is consistency and increasing the forces will provide gains, but every one has a different DNA and will respond in their own way.

 

[DLD]

A penis is a penis, stretch the thing it gets longer, jelq and pump it and it will become thicker. I am a simpleton

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

A penis is a penis, stretch the thing it gets longer, jelq and pump it and it will become thicker. I am a simpleton

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[DLD]

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[Bolden]

After my pump I had a little bit of pain somewhere near the head. It seems localized to a small area. It feels internal and not on the skin.
The sensation made me a bit nervous so I didn't do my final pump.

I recently came across the pumping forums at new art. There were some pumpers there who grown their penises to incredible sizes. However, they looked very strange to me. They didn't look like normal healthy penises. One was almost scaly. The other looked stiff, as if it were made out of hard wax instead of penile tissue. It got me to wondering if they were doing something to scar or stiffen or damage their penis and whether that is what I'm doing too.

Any insight is appreciated, thanks!